I just think it takes too long and you lose too much by waiting for the gear grind to work it’s magic in a “Normal” way
Why would i settle for a +10 or lower in vault when i can just buy a +20 ?
What do you do to get all the gold for all those boosts?
Swipe with credit card, or do you do something in game?
Genuinely curious. ^^
Just lots and lots of WoW tokens
Ah so swipe with C.C then.
I wish I was that rich IRL - living on minimum existance due to health issues. 
So we smol-economy people have to do the grind on our own… or earn gold in game. 
There’s no way to Swipe in WOTLK tho, So there i have to make the gold by hand.
But also not really any thing to spend it on, so don’t have to make that much.
My server don’t have any GDKP.
Hopefully you’ll get better soon.
People seem to " get around that " when they have enough money even in WoTLK.
It’s… a bit silly, to say the least.
Finding ways to earn gold is always nice tho when you stumble upon it on your own.
Yeah, never going to do any thing that breaks ToS, Seems like a very silly thing to do.
Wish they would actually punish the people who broke it… Because sometimes it does feel stupid to have such a hard stance against it, when so many can break the rules and have no consequences
buying boosts usually dont give you tons of gear either… so getting boosted with ilvl 390 wont make you magically ilvl 410. considering after 100 runs i still dont even have all slots, i guess 16 runs and 2 vaults wont get you very far
Well, any thing is better than the 320 or whatever a fresh alt at 70 has.
Also, the boosters are very accommodating, if you want armor stack, it will be armor stack, so any thing that drops you can use, so 2 items per run (depending on your armor type ofc, there are no mail or cloth tanks)
Now i don’t remember the EXACT ilevel i was after the 2nd vault.
You do get a bunch of valor to upgrade pieces + the currency to get 418 neck and other 418 things from personal craft.
I then started trying to apply to +14-15 keys for a bit and just testing the waters.
Eventually i ended up applying to 16,17,18,19 and people were inviting me, so i just went along with it.
Worked out great.
did u forgot to buy the Myt+ Season Pass?, that comes with a Key of ur own to … wait a min.
You sound like a religious boostie or an advertiser for boosting. Yet, you got a solid point in if your time is very limited and you have the spare money - you can buy yourself some easilly gained power to… I guess raid mythic? That you only got time to play during raid times… ehm.
Let’s try again. To do Mythic+ pushing! … that would gear you as you do it and push it up… huh. Ehm, ah, oh. Never mind. Ok moving on fast!
To get gear to more easily get into pushing content in the future! AHA! I got it… wait no, a far faster and more certain way would to just do the catchup isle… oh.
The better option to get gear than getting boosted is doing the catchup isle to get full 395 gear. It takes about a hour and half (same as the raid, more or less). It is also free, but requires you to not be AFK (so some more effort invested). Then you can use that gear to go into m+, get your 16s done and get the 418s as you also push up your score, so you can upgrade your gear to 415 that you get for free on the way.
In this case, I honestly think the free way is the better way. Well, “free”, as you still pay your sub, of course.
The isle was not a thing yet when i got M+ boost on my character, Got 70 at the end of feb then did the 2 boost weekd after that.
Also i don’t think you get the currency for the 418 items or can upgrade isle items past 395, So kinda mute points on your part, I also want the boost for the M+ score and 421 in vault
Maybe I was not clear enough, so I will try to write it more compact.
- Get 395 gear in ~2 hours, source: Catchup island.
- Use 395 gear to go straight into M+16 content.
- M+16 content will give materials to upgrade the crafted items to 418.
- While doing M+16 content, items will drop that you can equip and use.
- By doing M+16 you get mythic+ rating. By getting enough rating you upgrade items you got in point 4 to a max of ilvl 415.
So, sure you want to buy your vault 421 item from a m+20 boost and you want to buy the m+ score needed - all power to you. I am certain it is the best option for you. I fail to see where buying the time is needed or a boon though, when:
- My way you can just farm full 395 in two hours and get some gold on top
- Your way is 390 in two weeks of resets (over two hours in raids total) and a net loss of gold/money.
Sure, your way save you some effort of clicking and being an active player. Yet, personally, I find that to be a bad if not rotten deal in todays environment.
What I am saying is that getting boosted to 390ilvl is pointless, wasteful and inefficient. Just spend 2 hours on treasure island, and you will have received the same ilvl you yourself stated you got by buying your boosts over two weeks.
This is wrong, Gear is week 1, Second week is just to fill out the M+ Score before you try to apply to groups and
You should be around 400-405 after first boost week (Second week is mostly just to fill out the M+ Score for that week)
Assuming plate or leather ofc (For full armor stack)
You should be getting 16 398 items +2 402 then the ilvl 415-418 neck from the Crafting order and the 421 from vault (or 418 incase you did not buy a +20 boost as well as the full +16 tour)
In the end, Don’t overthink things.
Just do.
well to be fair if you have limited time you surely will be stuck at ilvl 400.
spamming 16s to upgrade gear from crafting and valor requires a ton of time.
50 dungeons for 5 items and probably more for valor upgrades b3cause ven 16s drop quite low ilvl that needa to be upped like 5 times each.
either way boosting or not, pushing is only for people who start at the beginning of season and dont switch chars or those no lifers that can run 8 dungeons a day
Post with your main first! Stop hide yourself, people! Dont be afraid and we cant talk if you hide yourself.
Sure, I agree and that was the point of the post I did above the one you just quoted. The time saved by buying the boost, is meaningless, as you buy the boost because you don’t have to time to play the content you get boosted to play. You will still have gained nothing from it.
So, instead of spending the time on being boosted, just spend equal amount of time ingame - and get the full 395 in two hours of gameplay. Instead of being boosted just play the game. I argue this more fun and engaging. Also, will grant you a higher chance to get into keys/raids, as you probably wont be looking good on the logs from the boost runs.
Not sure where pushing or doing multiple keys a week is “being a nolifer” comes in anywhere - I believe myself and the others above are just talking about gameplay, playing the content and how to get to that point efficiently. This came from discussions about what is important/needed to get into a heroic raids or M+ keys. Not the meaning of life, or if WoW is a waste of time in the grand scheme of things.
TL:DR
I argue that:
- Ilvl is not important for getting invited into keys/raids.
- The needed base ilvl is easy to aquire, and boosting is a bad option to get there.
Then I argued paying for a boost, that gives you a more inefficient gearing process than doing it yourself is probably not the best choice of action. That it also is bad for your chances to get into raids/m+, as your boosted status is obvious.
Itemlevel is an important factor of being invited though.
I think it was Preach gaming who did a test with two retribution paladins applying for 15s. Not sure if their m+ score was the a me, but the two had a large difference in itemlevel. The higher itemlevel character got invited much more often compared to the lower ilvl one. Both had enough ilvl to do the content.
395 ilvl is more than enough for 16s these days, but people will not invite you without score, when they can also invite someone else who is 10-15 ilvls higher than you.
Because there are limited spots in a group, and you have to stand out in that crowd. Why is it better for the leader to take you over the 407 balance druid ect.
That being said, it is possible to do it. A quick tip when you are on the lower end scale of ilvl, try and join groups that have just started, so only 1 or 2 people in them… this i found worked really well for raids… they’re more willing to take w/e for the first few ppl to get started…
When i geared my hunter a bit this even worked for mythic first 2 bosses, i got in as the 3rd person at 401ilvl i believe… as we got to 5ish people group was changed to min ilvl of 410 
With over 1000 posts I’d rather staying with my alt, since there is no account bound in the forum and my new main will lose privileges.
Just ask and I’ll give you my main, it’s not hiding, it’s efficiency.