Covenant class spells

Why the hell do we have to choose between Covenant to choose a spell for class/spec. It doesn’t make sense. I might be a Twillight/Underworld vampire wannabe and I want to take this Covenant but the holy paladin wannabe one might be better for my class. It’s nonsense. Leave only generic abilities and add more cosmetics to Covenant so it will be nice addition and contect to be made when we have free time.

Instead just add 2 more rows in talent trees - problem solved.

Blizz didn’t you learn that we don’t want Artifacts, Azerites, Corruptions or any other crap giving us powers. I want my character to deal damage not dozens of procs from everything else besides my char.

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Covenants are advertised as one of the main feature of Shadowlands. At the moment it seems that the expansions doesn’t have many extra features, so if they even remove the significance of the covenant, you can wave goodbye to WoW.

The internal struggles of choice…!

Draw up a list of Pros and Cons.

Nobody said about removing them… Just move Covenant abilities to talents - problem solved so you can enjoy Covenant like Suramar questline, Molten Front dailies, Argent Tournament or Timeless Isle instead of Azerite/Artifact grind.

I’m sure that I’ll choose the best Covenant for PvP even though it might be the ugliest thing possible because that’s me. I’m also fed up with azerite/artifact grinds. Even if they add weekly cap for Covenant I don’t want to be forced to do it. Instead I’d like to do it whenever my friends are offline I have nothing else to do. I think it is reasonable…

You realize none of those were advertised, baseline expansion features right?
Almost all of those were endgame features to lessen content draught.

Covenants will be islands like combined with the good old reputation grind. You will have to do it all through the expansion.

Ekhm…

You might wanna expand on that.

Just read and check news instead of guessing what Covenants will be. There were screens of passives and 1 active class spell + 1 shared for every spell. If you want to take part in discussion maybe check news and learn what covenants are instead of you think they are. I’m not going to rewrite whole post. Just open link and read it.

I have discussed covenant abilities in another thread as well, so I obviously checked this post already.

I have no idea why you think otherwise.

Then you have a problem with understanding what you read because:

  1. You said I want covenants to be removed
  2. You didn’t mention any class abilities
  3. You said covenants will be like Island Expeditions when they clearly won’t be

My problem is that we will get another boring, pointless grind that nobody enjoys and instead of choosing covenant everyone likes will choose the one is the best. Why because that’s WoW’s community. Everyone learned it on Classic release that people are way more min-maxing than in the past. So instead of making them do it again why can’t they make Covenants another class hall when you get some nice cosmetics, mount etc. instead of another Azerite, Artifact type thing. Just add class abilities as talents and make Covenant fun piece of content/activity to do when you’re bored. What is so hard to understand for you?

Nothing I say requires Covenants to be removed. Also why I’m raising it now? Because last time we reacted in alfa we prevented this Sub Rogue design to go live:

And last time they let us give them feedback in beta it was already too late and Azerite Armors went live anyway.

REMOVE THE SIGNIFICANCE. Which are the two abilities. I didn’t said that you want to remove covenants, you just want to make the spells talents. Which make the while thing useless.

And that will happen. I don’t like it either, but we both know Blizzard doesn’t listen to feedback. No matter what.

In Sub Rogue case mentioned above they listened so it’s not necessarily true

Yeah but that was not an expansion feature. We sent feedback during the alpha testing about Azerite gear, Islands and Warfronts and no changes were made in the release.

I’m worried that there will be no choice though.

We all know how this is likely to play out.

Class redisign was the biggest expansion feature in Legion.

Oh I apologise I didn’t read the title :confounded:

I would say artifact weapons and class halls were, but each to their own.

They actually prunned even more and they want to prune even more but thanks to feedback they left at least what we got.

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