So after i made my “meaningfull choice” I realised that i no longer care about my character.
I joined venthyr because its the covenant i like the most cosmetic/lore wise and after 2-3 days of dungeoning i relised that i am completly apathetic towards my character, I am arteficially handicaped thanks to my covenant choice and even with a 10-15 ilvl advantage my performance is worser than a kyrian or night fae warlock. This lead to me not caring about my character progression, so in order to try and salvage the expansion i decided to try and switch covenants, kyrian seemed like the least worse one aestethic wise so i went there, and while i did apreaciate the dmg boost ( i was no longer beeing out damged by warlocks 15 ilvl’s lower than me) I started to feel the same level of apathy towards my character as I did when i was venthyr, while i did have a motivation to do content now and continue gearing up I was again feeling unsatisfied, I quickly started hating the kyrian and bastion (a covenant i was concidering for my paldin and priest before this) due to the fact im stuck there because I do care about my performance as much as i care about my cosmetics.
As a whole I really like some features in Shadowlands and overall i think its a good expansion, but even in BfA i did not hate my character this much. I have started the two week quest to go back to venthyr so my warlock can retire where she was meant to be initially, my sub is already canceled and I will be uninstalling the game after I complete the 2nd covenant quest. Its been a a good 16 years but the covenants finally broke me, which is funny because i survived legion legendaries, azerite and corruptions… Ahh good memes those corruptions were. So anyway goodbye lovely people and I do hope you find the Shadowlads more enjoyable than i did.
PS Before you ask I already gave my gold to a guildie.
again. i don’t think it’s burn out, i think it’s lost it’s spark, quantity over quality…
it isn’t enough to be just a pretty face.
though something else that’s common is you can’t really tell this early in, there is often surprises further in…still
Yeah, its not burn out, i dont get burn out and if i did i would know it, this isnt it. I was perfectly fine leveling and was looking forward to endgame, it was once i could see that my character was handicaped that i started to lose interest. My covenant choice was actually meaningfull without the ability tied to it, i was more invested in doing the world quest to collect anima for the zone upgrades than i was in the power gain.
I’ve chosen Necrolord as a Hunter when I should be choosing Night Fae or Kyrian for performance. I think I consider changing to Kyrian every couple hours, since they have an awesome skill for PvP as well as being very close in DPS to Night Fae’s skill.
I’m not going to be happy either way and I pretty much completely hate the covenant system now.
I really gotta agree with you. We spend hours in this game farming mounts, transmogs so we can have this harmony between our characters and its apperance.
Green/Purple transmogs and/or mounts and what not for Warlocks. Alot of skulls… you know.
Covenants really put us in a weird spot. Affliction. I mean, you HAVE to choose the Soul Rot one. It is just way too strong for Affliction. But its transmog, that fox spell, the general environment of that covenant… its just way too unfitting to a Warlock.
And that’s literally the reason I choose Demo, knowing how bad it is and am playing with Necrolord. RIP though 'cuz I actually wanted to do some Arena in this expansion.
Wish they would just return back to normal and get rid of this entire borrowed power system.
A word of advise, if you care about your characters aestethic or have a bond with it, dont change, the only thing that was going trough my head while doing the Kyrian introduction quests was “just give me my ability and soulbind and lets be done with it”.
The main thing about Shadowlands that you guys honestly need to understand is that there is less free choice for players. You start the expansion and you are forced to complete the campaign. Levels don’t even matter because you are required to finish every single campaign quest so that you can pick your covenant and when you do you must take the one best for your class or the tryhards in M+ won’t invite you and when you’re done doing all that you have to start doing the covenant quests and you don’t have any choice there at all. back in the day you could literally level up by just doing pvp or dungeons. Your mind is not used to feeling like a slave and that’s why you feel like this. Just try to remember that what you want does not matter and continue playing as you are told.
i dinged 51 on my main, and went back to farming rare mounts…
I honestly think this might be the end of wow for me… i am desperately looking for another game to dive in.
And as mentioned, its not a burn out thing, its lack of a quality game where its not all about keeping us subbed for as long as possible using every f2p trick in the book.
Make a choice that makes you care about your character. Nobody ever said the covenant choice should be based solely on cosmetics or lore. It should be based on whatever is relevant to you.
Only thing that dissapointed me with the covenants were the power
Sure the forums overexaggerate about everything, but covenants feel like the essence major, but its just the major with a little abillity thats handy i suppose
However this expansion is still so i dont mind it too much ^^
Well i do understand this and have known this for a long time and this is one of the reasons im quiting.
This really does not affect me, Im in guild with friends so my raid/M+ spot is secured, however i do want to perform good on my own free will and am very progression focused, as long as it doesnt mess with my mog that is.
Already told you that both choices are bad and dont work for me, that why im quiting. Both are relevant and whitout both i dont care about the character, whats so hard to understand. Also told you that this system is going to be garbage.
The powers were busted in alpha/beta and the ones you get now are the atempt that Blizzard made to “balance” them.
Well, I’ve got the name Darkrayne on this guy and have always used big, rough, plated looking pets and stuff. I’m not mogged at the moment but I obviously go for the darker looking appearances. I’m not a proper roleplayer or anything like that but I do care about the aesthetics so I’m not keen on becoming a treehugger or angelic/cult presence/worshipper (whatever the Kyrians are supposed to be).
I don’t normally put too much stock in reviews that tell me what I should think of the game but that review laid bare my feelings too.
And kinda with the OP, as someone who isn’t too great at the game that needs all the help I can get to get Cutting Edge, reading guildes that say Kyrian, Kyrian Kyriaaaaaaaan for covenant choice makes that one the one I have to pick if I want a raid spot.
I was originally planning on trying to get into raiding and M+ this expansion but the reliability on covenants has put me right off that. I’ll probably get max renown on each covenant for the rewards, max reps out for the rewards/in case of added Allied Races needing them/future flying achievements, and then spend the rest of my time doing Torghast for fun or, what I was doing already, hunting down rares/achievements/farming old stuff.
I’ll admit I’m a little disappointed, because I was so excited for this to be the expansion where I tried to dip my toes into something new. But if my character can’t pick the covenant they would naturally pick as a character, that doesn’t feel worth it. So I’ll stick to my guns and just forego raids and whatnot I think.
Tbf the differences are not that game breaking right now, I would assume that you can get AotC and keystone master achievements with just about anycovenant, however the issue for me is that i like to strive to get good parses and to be at the top of the meters, that is whats fun for me, something i cant do this expansion while retaining the character identity that i have.
However if you are interested in endgame PvE dont let your covenant choice deter you and give it a go.
I dunno, mate. It seems the meta will shift on an almost weekly basis, based on soulbind unlocks for each covenant, so personally I wouldn’t put too much weight on that choice. My lightforged pally is going Kyrian, because I get the feeling I’ll be able to aoe nuke in pvp, and lightforged synergizes with paladin very well… and my blood elf pally is going Venthyr because it fits the fashion.
People should realize pugging is a much bigger nerf to your overall performance as a player than literally any covenant choice.
I really dislike the choice too, abilities i like kyrian, but transmog i want Fae, and I’m constantly thinking about switching and what it would imply.
They made the choice so weighted it feels like a punishment, a restriction. Not a fun bonus or choice.
so i dont mind it too much ^^