Dagger in the dark is an awful pvp talent

awful design, cheesy, random 1 shots from plebs.

just delete it, it’s awful.

30k+ shadowstrikes, like okay dude…

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Its super awful and unhealthy

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And the 47th Thread will help about that wile 2 others are still “front page” ?

Yeah i agree, exactly like DStance, Condemn and Intervene.

warrior’s are fine if:

1- they revert intervene to the old intervene as it was in mop (intervening 1 damaging / cc ability), rather than all abilities

2- condemn damage nerf

3- ignore pain doesn’t reduce damage taken by 50%

Cant argue about any point but to this i would add the charge that should go.

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what? remove charge? huh???

you mean condemn execute charge? that’s a pvp talent

sure, hope another 3% arms buff will solve the problem

Well this point we can already cross off

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Yeah i mean the PvP Talent, that should go or at the very least not work with Sudden Death.

It’s a comical meme talent that needs you to blow all your CDs to do that damage. And if they don’t kill you they are usless for 3mins.

It also counter productively shows where rogues are. Might as well have a talent that carry’s a viable flag about when in stealth.

For random BGs. Who cares? It’s like arcane mage temporal shield. That’s ridiculous also on top of Triune. Arcane what???

The range on that thing is big enough for most aoe to not really work when it comes to getting the stacking rogue out.

Sorry that wasn’t my point. My point was it tells you and your team where the rogue is when you see a stack of it.

Which eliminates the element of surprise a rogue uses. Specially when they are trying to secure a flag return on your tank for example.

Being able to hit them in aoe if it’s range was that short would make it 100> pointless.

Considering we’re on the arena forums, I don’t think a lot of people care whether you can capture a flag or not.

Fair point.

Dagger in the Dark should be removed just so that we can avoid the daily threads about it.

how should you react to that? ok we see the stacks clearly, but what can u do about it?

A butthurt rogue overreacting on things that are completely different, just because afraid of all the community again raging at that obnoxious thing, called rogue, in the game for 15 years.
Show me how the warrior 1 shot you from stealth…no?..

They do not need to one shot… they are still just way stronger in general. No one is defending this honor talent btw.

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There is nothing stronger than a 1 shot. Stop with the false conclusions.
If you can oneshot you don’t need defensive skills, you don’t need utility, you don’t need healing, you don’t need anything really. The strongest thing that can exist in such a type of game is to be able to kill someone in a time and manner for him impossible to react and defend himself. That’s like 101 of design.
That’s why it might be acceptable in a game like CS cause that’s the type of the game, but in a game like wow, nothing should kill like this, it’s absurd.
And yeah, I know all rogues are so kind to “not defend it” still so many play it…
And I know it’s not your fault that Blizzard designed this crap, but please, stop with the ridiculous “but but but…”. There is no but, if you can 1 shot and you can reliable do it every match you are the strongest thing in the game. Bar none.

Warriors are stronger

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