Dark Ranger customizations for Blood and Night elves 🔴

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@Brommul-argent-dawn

So whilst in game, the NPCs may allow you death knight safe passage in Quel’thalas and Silvermoon, and consider you part of the Horde, in the lore such a blood elf death knight is actually a Knight of the Ebon Blade first and foremost, and that’s who you answer to, and the Horde are allies of the Knights, whom allow you sanctuary in their lands, but you are not considered a “citizen of the horde” in the same sense as say the other naturalised races.

It’s the same for Demon Hunters and the Illidari.

So it’d be the same for dark rangers IMO. First and foremost their loyalty is to Undercity and QT considers them allies of sorts whom happen to share heritage with the belf, but that does not mean QT considers them “their people”.

That makes sense, alright. I get what you mean.

But I still think it’s important to consider that mechanically speaking, even though the lore states otherwise, both Death Knights and Demon Hunters maintain their original faction and racial flag/skills, so they can be still considered special customizations of the original race.

As said before, seen what happened before, having Dark Rangers as class would seem the best option… but… I just don’t see that happening. Not when we already have an elf-only hero class.

@Brommul-argent-dawn

To be clear this is more me arguing that I’d see it as “more convoluted” to have dark rangers “be a belf thing” when it’s perfectly plausible to just maintain the status quo and keep them as a forsaken thing. Everything already points to this.

So I guess this is where we must agree to disagree. Because while I think I get what you mean, I still feel that it can be argued that lore and game structure / mechanics can’t always match for a 100%.

Lore-wise… sure, it is more convoluted.

Technically speaking… it actually is much easier and convenient to add two pale skins and an eye color to an existing race than to create a whole new class based on another we already have and which actually IS what the Dark Rangers are about, as seen from the Legion class hall.

And I shall add that indeed, we have already seen how for the sake of gameplay mechanics Blizzard has no problems implementing for a certain faction/race elements that do not ‘really’ belong to them even if they have no NPCs in town. (Death Knights - I should actually check, but I will take your word for now).

Yes, I am actually reversing your concerns into a support point. Don’t hate me! But I can’t shake the feeling that what was done before, can be done again.

@Brommul-argent-dawn

I understand the temptation to have dark ranger customisations to keep belf distinct from Velf, but to me it’s a poor solution to the issue. The issue is the belf “niche” is being farmed out to another race without their niche being explored in other ways. The solution is to explore unique ways to build upon those niches (and to push their unique one: light) not to give them a completely new niche that doesn’t sit totally smoothly with the lore.

Oh, but I have wanted to play a Dark Ranger long before Void Elves were created! I just like the looks and edginess of them. I also have an undead huntress, mind you… but even with the fresher flesh and red eyes, she still does not look as cool.

Personal considerations aside, however, further customization is ALWAYS a good thing, whatever it is. In fact, for what concerns further Blood Elf customization, I actually started a collection thread here:

The Blood Elf Customization Thread

Many people feel that the Blood Elves are lacking customizations compared to other races, and Blizzard appears to be paying more attention to the community of late, so I am going to try and start a customization wishlist for the Blood Elves in case they might notice. Fellow sin’dorei, voice your desires and support your favorite proposals! FACE / HEAD Braided hair and beard (seen in Warcraft 2) Customizable eyebrows length ‘Dark Ranger’ red eyes (to be used wi…

To be honest at this point I am not really sure what could be done with the Light for them. Sure, the Light and the Sunwell are what made Blood Elves take their current appearances to start with, and be able to train paladins. But that process took thousands of years and was already completed? I don’t think many changes can be expected in the short years passed since the restoration of the Sunwell. In my opinion further Light-related customization would be entirely new and require a special event explained by the lore, even more than the Dark Rangers (which at least already exist).

Also, sadly enough, not even the Light would not be an original theme for them… since there are the Lightforged Draenei.

But you seem to know your lore (better than me, too) so you’re very welcome to post your thoughts on further Blood Elf customization over there if anything comes to mind.