Dark Simulacrum

Is free now on PTR and 20 sec cd.

Frostwyrm nerfed.

Heartstop Aura now only for frost.

Blood Plague buffed

Old crypt fever is back and nerfed????
Is it baseline or still a talent?
Still a talent. I love the buff, but the other new talents most of which are focused on damage/healing will make taking Dark Sim a very hard choice.
Life and Death nerfed by 5% (15% to 10%)

Lichborne now Unholy/Frost
31/10/2018 10:23Posted by Deathvarg
Life and Death nerfed by 5% (15% to 10%)

Lichborne now Unholy/Frost


Where are those changes at?
31/10/2018 10:34Posted by Bubasparks
Where are those changes at?


Wowhead PTR Build, may or may not be current.
But that's my current reference (They don't have updated Dark Sim etc)
31/10/2018 11:49Posted by Deathvarg
31/10/2018 10:34Posted by Bubasparks
Where are those changes at?


Wowhead PTR Build, may or may not be current.
But that's my current reference (They don't have updated Dark Sim etc)


maybe EU PTR is not updated yet....strange
31/10/2018 09:19Posted by Bubasparks
Is free now on PTR and 20 sec cd.

Frostwyrm nerfed.

Heartstop Aura now only for frost.

Blood Plague buffed

Old crypt fever is back and nerfed????

Crypt fever is backed into Necromancy something new spell
so theyre !@#$ing with old talents which are removed
makes sense doesnt it?!
31/10/2018 12:38Posted by Exemplis

Crypt fever is backed into Necromancy something new spell
so theyre !@#$ing with old talents which are removed
makes sense doesnt it?!


It's certainly not ))
Can we have a source please? Can't find anything on wowhead
31/10/2018 13:50Posted by Enherji
Can we have a source please? Can't find anything on wowhead


https://www.wowhead.com/news=288281/patch-8-1-ptr-build-28294-spell-and-class-changes-arcane-torrent-and-berserking-

but there is nothing about:

Life and Death nerfed by 5% (15% to 10%)

Lichborne now Unholy/Frost
but there is nothing about:

Life and Death nerfed by 5% (15% to 10%)

Lichborne now Unholy/Frost

Yep, could not find anything as well.
Dark Sim beside the CD reduction, it is also free.

EDIT:
Just found it in wowhead PTR talent calculator.
Lichborne is part of unholy DK pvp talents.
also the life and death nerf is there as well - 10% healing
wowhead ptr page - Death Knight talent calc for unholy.
Ohh mmo-champ got better list now.

Lichborne now makes you walk not faster then 50% of your normal speed...i guess thats same rp walking speed just in other words )))

Why would Unholy use Lichborne...

Ohh btw, that Magus azerite trait was buffed significantly.
31/10/2018 16:12Posted by Bubasparks
Why would Unholy use Lichborne...

1 Min CD defensive, combine it with the new Azerite trait that makes us heal when IBF is active and it could be very strong
We have lots of cool talents now but i wish we get any of them baseline.
So long as Lichborne slows and still only provides 30% reduction it’ll remain garbage, you should NOT have to cancel aura a defensive.

Life and death will still be powerful, 2-3 targets with wounds will provide a lot of healing and I can see it becoming mandatory.

The magus buff looks good, hope it sims well. It might make ‘Army of the damned’ worth it.

Is it bad that I think we will need all the defensive talents? Could really be doing with having some of them baseline.
30% reduction is more than enough on a 1min CD.
Also protects from CC.
If it would not slow us, it would be OP and after X weeks blizz would never it or other def' abilities.

Just make sure your Stun and Deathgrip are off CD
Slow your target and with DG+Stun you will have more than enough up time.

This is against melee who try to kite you.

I can see it being useful against low mobility casters like Lock shammy and priests.
less useful agaist Druids/mages/hunters but still far from bad.
Remove the slow and make it 2mins then I would think about it. Remember it is not a bubble and you are very much open to other CCs.

Crippling your own mobility is a terrible terrible trade off. When I first seen it I was excited thinking it was a spell we could cast AGAINST people it was that awful. Thanks but no thanks.

I am excited for the other changes, we’ll have to make some tough choices for 8.1.
01/11/2018 16:47Posted by Tashu
30% reduction is more than enough on a 1min CD.
Also protects from CC.
If it would not slow us, it would be OP and after X weeks blizz would never it or other def' abilities.

Just make sure your Stun and Deathgrip are off CD
Slow your target and with DG+Stun you will have more than enough up time.

This is against melee who try to kite you.

I can see it being useful against low mobility casters like Lock shammy and priests.
less useful agaist Druids/mages/hunters but still far from bad.


The problem is Unh now will have to many good pvp talents, thats why i kinda dont see the reason to use lichborne. And lets be honest 30% reduction even on 1 min will not help...i dont feel that 30% dmg reduction now, i will not feel it in 8.1, if they dont buff our armor rate or smth....