People invite meta specs because someone else said that it’s a meta spec. I don’t think you have to look for much more reasoning behind it. Ask any meta seeker why Resto Shaman isn’t meta anymore, and you most likely get very disappointing answers (or what’s required to fill the weaknesses of Disc).
And what’s meta for the 0.1% group isn’t inherently the best choice for the weekly +10 run. As long as we blindly follow the “meta” for content that’s not relevant for us, a solution is impossible to find.
I remember in one of the first weeks of this season someone complaining about me playing Disc Priest, because “Sorry bro, non meta healer. Not gonna make it”, while they just failed to interrupt They seek meta specs when they just horrendously fail in dealing with the mechanics. Can a meta spec boost them? Well, not a meta spec played by an average Joe. They do not do what they do up in the ranks - they don’t do what makes the spec meta. Simply put.
It is very relevant because people think you need for anything but a +6 a shaman or frost mage, aparently. Like you.
I so hard disagree it is unreal. I am blasting 10’s with any spec. And my mistweaver seems to blast too.
What you talk about is not relevant at all. You put 0.1% rules on +6 keys. Now talking about what is relevant or not…
Nellja is spot on. I know many others share the experience.
It’s easy to blast keys now that you’re fully geared and many nerfs have been applied to dungeons, but I bet you weren’t crushing +10s two months ago. In fact, I know you weren’t—I checked your logs. At the end of the day, the stats speak for themselves—people just need to take a closer look. Starting with Raiderio, it’s hard not to see the problem.
You arent making any argument here. https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-1/7177581-10-mists-of-tirna-scithe
I do not know this is my first 10 timed, but i wasnt interested in searching. Look at all those shaman dps’es. And is 10 weeks (11th october. have to remind you it is christmas now) more or less than 2 months? Are we fully geared?
Incorrect. People prefer the meta specs, simply because with identically skilled players, they perform better. And you cannot screen for skill, only for gear and experience(score).
I don’t give a fish about meta specs. I rarely run my keys, because I tank and heal. I got invites almost instantly.
It is very real, we have different opinions, and that is fine. I seem to get unlucky with groups that lack any of the “preferred” specs.
I also like my Mistweaver. Both the Fistweaver and Soothing Mist style.
I am talking about my experience and observation.
Previously, every run with a Frost DK would be guaranteed to be timed. Now it feels like it happens mostly with Frost Mages and Shamans.
This is completely off. If you’re playing Shaman DPS, Augmentation Evoker, or Protection Paladin, your spec will absolutely carry you up to a certain key level. This is a reality for a significant number of players using these classes.
But no one talk about the repetitive content we have with m+ .
Basically we had WoD - Legion-BFA-Shadowlands-Dragonflight and right now Tww…
That’s 6 expansion with 4 seasons of m+=24 Season of repeatable content .(21 right now)
Right now i would dislike doing even a simple dungeon even if the prize was 100k or a million . I don’t know , is just feel tiresome since doesn’t actually offer any enjoyment anymore .
Next season again 4 old dungeon and the 4 current dungeon …amazing feeling redoing content for the 200 times … Nothing new nothing amazing …
The actual numbers right now have fall to 500k completed keys and many of them are for the same people that run for 8/8 and so on .
People got tired of redoing the same thing over and over and blizzard keep up putting the same old dungeon that we already have done for xx times .
It’s a diablo copy that every season we have a higher ilvl …and that’s all …
Agreed, constantly reusing four older dungeons feels like Blizzard is taking the easy route. We definitely deserve more original content in Mythic+ to keep things fresh and engaging.
I’m not trying to make this personal, but you only timed COT and GB 10 around 7–8 weeks ago. If that counts as “blasting 10s,” then we’re clearly not playing the same game. If you think mythic+ is fine as it is, that’s your opinion, and that’s totally valid—just say that and let’s move on.
You literally try to make this personal to call me out. And you have checked logs. I am blasting 10’s since at least 10-11 weeks. And not fully geared.
I backed up my fact with that timed +10 with a group below 620 ilvl on 11th october. I am not interested in all dungeons. You go for my last timed +10. So whatever. If your statement is i am not blasting 10’s it does not matter which dungeons it are. I was blasting 10’s already.
https://raider.io/characters/eu/argent-dawn/Mistjo
Here. This is how much i am interested in city of threads
Cheers mate for not making this personal. You did a real good job with trying to call me out. Dont engage with me anymore, indeed. You know you were wrong.
Hard disagree unless you are talking about player perspective.
People think you need meta for 10s when you do not need it at all.
This was even the case on Prot paladin before the buffs to them.
Fun fact a couple of the meta or close to meta specs are worse then other specs in pugs and at key levels around 10 or lower.
And also no you are kinda very wrong as there is a different requirement in higher keys then in lower keys it is a different requirement in a skilled group in voice then a pug group.
The thing is, at that level its pretty rare to see an enhance, ele, fdk or Boomie actually be really good and top the meters.
Most of the time they arent carrying anything, barely even themselves, yet the offmeta/bad specs do the damage because they didnt fotm reroll(which lets be honest, is the case for a very sizeable chunk of these meta spec players).
It is more like; when you have a considered OP spec on the same score and ilvl and experience as a considered underperforming spec, then the player on the considered underperforming spec is on average a better player. Otherwise that ‘OP spec’ player should be higher.
And that is why nobody should look at specs for way below top keys. You want to build a comp so you have a battleres and maybe bloodlust, but other than that, nothing matters.
They seek meta specs when they just horrendously fail in dealing with the mechanics. Can a meta spec boost them? Well, not a meta spec played by an average Joe. They do not do what they do up in the ranks - they don’t do what makes the spec meta. Simply put.
