Please Blizzard, stop with the gimmicks and random low proc / high CD heals on enchants and trinkets. We want reliable throughput, and some mana regen options would be nice too.
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Given that most MWs ran Lucid Dream and Claw, yeah, we really could use something that functions the same…
It’s not good when a class’ need for mana regen has to be satisfied with external sources though. I’d much rather Mana Tea was better, or that cost increase we got with SL was reversed.
Idk man, MW doesn’t really have any “mana dependency” and I think our mana is more than fine. It requires that you play correctly and don’t just fool around, but it is fine as long as you do. I never have issues with mana in raids, and the only time I need external sources is for Yu’lon which is only played on two fights in the tier.
Isn’t bad design to have a 3min raid healing cd that u actually use only at 2/10 fights? Yes chi’ji is an option but that way you are using only half the effect of the spell. Doesn’t that ring a “R E W O R K”? Just make chi’ji baseline and instead of splash healing on EM just give it a raid 10% dmg reduction for 10sec or 5% for 25? Or just 10% intellect for monk for 25sec or 10% healing for 25sec, or some random absorb shields dunno honestly. It’s the only healer big cd that requires 2 innervates to make use of it. My shaman has like 900mana tide and 1100 mana spirit link, if i remember correctly. Just press it and forget about it.
Yu’lon does not require 2 innervates. It doesn’t require any, as it’s fine to just use it with mana tea. However, it is THE BEST use of innervate in most cases.
Isn’t bad design to have a 3min raid healing cd that u actually use only at 2/10 fights?
Not sure what this means. Yes, some talents are not used for every fight… who would have thought? What do you mean “half the effect of the spell?” I don’t understand what you mean. Chi’ji is insanely good and can do a ton of healing. It’s not some weak CD that barely does anything.
1100 mana spirit link
And a good yu’lon is the highest healing CD in the game by far.
Every post on the monk forums:
99% of people: mw feels bad, we need more mana, and better defensive CDs
Nasella: I can do mythic raids so its fine stop crying and git gud.
KEKW
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99% of people: mw feels bad, we need more mana, and better defensive CDs
What are you talking about? I can get on board with changes… just not any major buffs because it’s not needed. More mana? People should try to not be awful before asking for mana changes. Only thing I could understand is a very slight mana reduction on vivify and enveloping mist to make the spec less punishing, but it’s not really needed. Better defensives? What more do you want than a 1½ minute CD 60% damage reduction? or fort brew which is a +15% max hp, +15% dmg reduction and 15% max hp shield (if you are using the conduit)? How much more tanky do you want us to be lol
Nasella: I can do mythic raids so its fine stop crying and git gud.
I have only said “git gud” but sure, keep putting words in my mouth 
Crazy to think people like you exist. Go on, jump on more bandwagons
I think what most people want is something they can use in stun.
Barkskin: 20% damage reduction, 8 seconds per minute. Not super strong, but usable in stun.
Fort brew: if you get it off before you are stunned is stronger. The health increase + damage reduction math out to about 26% equivalent DR, for 15 seconds. This rises to 41% with the conduit shield, but you can’t be healed back into that 15% shield and I’m not sure it has as much value as it looks like.
It must be said, over a 3 minute period, barkskin provides about 2.6% DR and FB is 3.4% with conduit (by my hasty math, and assuming you take a lump of damage fast so the 15% shield takes the brunt of it). But that is comparing a 1 minute CD to a 3 minute CD, and I would sort of expect the 3 minuter to be the beefier of the two.
The problem is you often don’t know you need FB until you’re stunned, so it becomes an unused and unloved button.
Personal note; I’m often the last healer alive in raid wipes even without having used FB. I’m not sure why I’m so passively tanky, and maybe it’s mobility, but there is something about monks that keep them alive longer than most.
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For PvP I 100% agree that MW needs giga buffs.
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There are two ways, either tone down the rest either pump up mw. So far we haven’t seen Blizzard willing to do the first, thats why people ask the second. It’s not necessary to buff mana regen, people should be able to manage that and not ask mistweaver to be a paladin with non stop spam without actually using mana, HOWEVER, since we dont really bring any utility we should be the clear top hps healer. Even by a tiny 1%, we shouldn’t by any mean be 5th/6th at logs -even if the gap is small- both heroic and mythic (only checking at 95%+ because i think there is a chance that people actually know how to perform decent their character at 95%) -even if healers are close as you said- top spot should be mistweaver.
Unless they want to give us a unique raid utility, maybe a hard def cd like barrier, like aura, like amz, like spirit link, not just a pure hps one. Effective health has higher value than hps.
tl;dr dont buff mana, buff healing per mana so we are top hps healer. or just nerf the healers with better utility kit, or just give us a great utlity, maybe like a raid cd one. But we need one of the three like yesterday not in 2 months or next expansion.
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