Could you bring back those glorious times… When, when leveling up a character, you could meet a huge number of characters from the opposite faction if you wanted, for example. Cackle them like a fan. Gaining experience in open-PvP, thereby faster. Bring back the experience of leveling up characters, as was implemented in the “The Burning Crusade” add-on.
The fact is that when playing with the addition “The Burning Crusade”, any clash with the opposite faction completely disappeared into nowhere. Which is very sad. Having personally upgraded three characters in the current expansion and having met at most 1-3 characters for each upgraded one, I was simply dumbfounded. How can I put it, where are all the “7.25 million players” in the current version?? All world PvP is destroyed by the actual leveling system and attitude towards PvP in the open world. Give me some fun, give me some ganks, what kind of dull pumping without open PvP is this? Bring back the PvP servers then!!! Where should I go with my favorite game with a lot of ganks while leveling up??? What have you done, I want to cry, how sad everything is. Really, the complaints of the “whiners” on the topic “Ai, Ai, Ai, my character is constantly being killed by a character from the opposite faction, have pity on me!!! Punish him!” did they bear fruit? This is a game where two factions fight among themselves, bring back the clashes between them in the open world! Otherwise, the meaning of the “war” between the two factions is partially lost. Give life at the pumping levels. It became very, very boring to swing, no “live”.
I think many will agree with me and many are also dissatisfied with the current policy. Where is the game heading? If I understand correctly, then everything will be combined into one huge server and it will not matter which server you play on for any interaction between each other? In this case, bring back the leveling system as it was in the add-on “The Burning Crusade.” Dear, bring back the gank, bring back the fun from it. Divide the servers into PvP, PvE and RP. Eh.
Well, aren’t you able to turn the war mode on with the similar minded people? I’ve never liked forced-pvp servers . It is just my opinion I know, but I like how the servers are now actually. It gives you the option to either enroll on open-world PvP or not. So if you want it, go for it, turn your Warmode on.
I don’t think it will ever be a reality again but if they bring back separated PvE - PvP servers, I would be in a PvE one this time, regardless of how less its community numbers are than a PvP one usually as we’ve seen before.
I’ve had enough high-level campers in 20 years. The campers of SV to ratchet boat, hellfire peninsula, sholozar basin or casters on the docked ship’s mast in Valiance Keep who are hunting low-levels.
Your right. War mode is certainly great, but you also need to know where to find a character from the opposing faction. Locations are often empty, and there is no one to meet at all. With the current spread of levels in certain locations and their number, it’s simply terrible.
And how do you expect Blizzard to get more people to turn on PvP?
Why would I even run around with war-mode enabled, only to get my leveling experience constantly interrupted by a level 70 rogue in the zone for example?
We have too many zones to Explore during leveling that you’re unable to meet anyone. Then we have the problem of the community, where they rush for to get max level , treating their time as an schedule work for to reach their favorite content (Just speedrunning more for mythic and raid , all their Life It s an Total speedrun).
The only solution would be to make special realms that work around World PvP.
The current playerbase is divided by Horde-Alliance and the ratio is 66% vs 34% respectively . Would be nice to think before suggesting something that only would divide the 2 factions even more .
Do you think i would pick up to play Alliance to get my ##! kicked because somehow the pvp server is becoming Horde dominating due the ratio in population.
A yes look Darksorrow-Frostwhisper-that i’m playing and the connected-servers that is it. 2018 the ratio of Alliance horde was 70%-30% in favor of Alliance
2024 the ratio is for Horde 60%-40% with only 2-3 Alliance guilds still remaining . At least 6 of the top guilds that we had went Horde…(The favorism-racials was sure OP._)
An easy way to see the problem is Twitch (I just checked right now …) Top 50 wow streamers…44 Horde vs 6 Alliance in a game with 2 faction… It doesn’t sound well…
Even now with the war-mode on i don’t use it .
I just lvl up my Paladin in Retail with war-mode and in the zone of Dragonflight in 1 hour i died like 5 times .You know why ? in the zone quest there were literally 10x amount of people playing Horde… I didn’t encounter a single Alliance before switching the mode off- Instead in every quest related zone i encounter from 3 to 10 Hordes.
So why should i play a game where the diversity is so huge and the benefit of a good gameplay is so low…
The favorism of one faction over the other can have huge and breaking the game .
The times I’ve had warmode on and quested like in SL, it felt like you saw a lot of people outside… Issue was however, it was never a world pvp experience from another guy lvling trying to kill me… No no… It was a fully stacked max lvl guy bored ganking low lvls and then camping corpses just for the heck of it…
Even AT max lvl, as a resto shaman, I once forgot my WM on, and wanted to do Mist to gear up (I was freshly dinged)… The stacked warrior just corpse ganked me so many times, I got kicked from the dungeon grp for being slow… That’s the issue with World Pvp…
I’m not really sure I see the point of this. If you want world PvP, then there’s warmode for you. If your complaint is that there are not enough people in warmode… Well, it’s probably because the overwhelming majority of people don’t give a damn about world pvp. You can’t force people to play a mode they don’t care for.
I think Wergo meant realm by saying worlds. Old-school pvp-only realms. Darkos brough another good argument to this above tho, you can not control server dominance on pvp-only realms. If all goes for the horde or alliance, other faction will be screwed day and night in anywhere of the map. Plus, for the last couple of years of WoW they are trying to end 2-sided gameplay (horde vs. alliance)
it started with cross-faction dungeons, and then raids, now guilds and even more on TWW warbands implementation. I don’t think they will ever even think about a pvp-server, at any point.
oh okay…
Yeah we used to have those…but they got removed.
Definitely understand that a PvP server with a dominating faction is hell for the other side…
They are trying to force server faction balance on some classic realms, it’s not really going down well with everyone but I’m sure others may enjoy it. Especially when it’s locked to transfers at short notice. Most people choose realms because they are biased one way or the other and people don’t really go there for the pvp.
I would never darken a PvP server’s doors again. I started on one. Worst experience ever and ofc I had no idea what I was signing up to
I agree we are unlikely to see the return of PvP realms in Retail. If anything we are moving towards everything being more cross realm so that populations are punished for being low.
My experience with War mode during BfA when we were bribed to use it to get more AP gain, was that it’s nearly always a one sided shard. They are rarely ever balanced. People mostly don’t want to be War mode on for levelling but they want the xp gain and as you rarely run into others, it’s a pretty safe bet for most.
Balancing the factions is a solution of course but yet again, it means forcing some people to play something they don’t want to. I do not believe in it…
As I mentioned in the above post, I’ve had similar experiences in PvP realms, I used to play with my IRL friends and they were located in a PvP server. Damn, only that era I hated leveling alts.
I wouldn’t care about World PvP. even though I hate it personally, max-level gankers who farm low levels for just simply nothing were an annoying experience. And most of us surely know, they’ll be waiting
When I was levelling with WM on and we did the Legion invasions for good xp there used to be max levels to stomp on you. I had to bring a bodyguard, he annihilated anyone who came near me. We couldn’t be grouped cos he’d kill my xp gain but fortunately there aren’t many phases for WM on.