Why? Its the BIS weapon, it makes sense to come from the hardest Boss.
HC Magmaw and Cho’gall are both jokes of a fight, especially on 10 man. It should be super easy to get a weapon that only does 2% less dps than Ashkandi…
you kids and your skips lol you retailers wouldnt have liked classic proper ^^
It was a joke.
But Hunters get their bis weapon from 1st & 2nd boss in BoT, care to explain that?
Cho’Gall being “technically” last boss, his weapon is garbage.
Magmaw is 1st/2nd boss in BWD, drops Bdks bis weapon.
Fire mages bis offhand is from Halfus, also 1st boss. mainhand from Al’akir which argueably is alot easier than getting Nefarian down on heroic.
So…how did your argument work again ?
Probably why they don’t play it.
Pre-Raid BiS are still a thing unless you take people in questing gear to do Raids. And no, not everything can be bought through VP, you’ll still need weapon, Relics/Wands and trinkets unless you’re lucky with Archeology. Or are you delusional enough to believe that no one is gearing for Raids anymore?
I’d rather do Deadmines than Occulus. At least the bosses have mechanics to them.
Deadmines would be fine if the last two bosses were more like every other dungeon boss.
A way to skip the damn poison phase & reduce time Ripsnarl is gone during the vapors would help alot.
Like you get a way to vote to skip it or something.
maybe just enjoy the content instead of just wanting to skip/bypass everything after all it’s a game try enjoy it not just treat it as a job.
Daily reminder to delete Deadmines from Random Heroic Dungeon!
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Daily reminder that it takes less time than waiting a deserter debuff and that you probably don’t need to farm Valor anymore. And if you do you probably could still use some of the drops anyway.
Let as remove 2 dungeons from random queue and we are fine 
Once it pops, its insta leave. Those who want to do it, still can
Absolutely great point , at least for us +10 alters leaving is the best option , leave > log next toon > do 1 2 dungs > get back to og toon > join > benefit !
gg
Wait doesn’t buff/debuffs pause when you log off?
They could make the last boss drop a token that grants additional 240 points for everyone, ofc this is probably too much work.
Speaking of it, everything you ask for is too much work, as people aren’t actually gonna stop playing the game because of this.
And then they will do nothing.
Nope, leave Deadmines in and force people to kill all bosses in other dungeons and then they’ll complain less about the length of Deadmines.
The problem isn’t the dungeon, it’s the way you lazy shortcutters want to play the game.
Oh you’re the clown throwing out illogical nonsense in the other thread… Not everyone wants to raid buddy, like why would we raid right now? I’m good till Dragon Soul personally.
nop!
it will fade even if you are offline
Deadmines is perfectly fine and not even that long , i know of others that are far longer than deadmines… Grim batol is 1 for sure ! !
People skipping bosses / packs and then crying when people actually want to do the bosses needs to go play another game … this game was and is never intended for the skip generation also known as Millenials (1980 - 1996) go play something that encourage´s skipping content and let us what you would call BOOMER play a game we grew up with
WoW first came out 2004… I would it is EXACTLY made for the generation you mention (1980-1996). But the feeling I have that the skippers are one or two generations younger. Or just the most annoying bunch of people from every generation.
This skipping nonsense is really annyoing, especially when poeple don’t do it right and pull three trash packs while trying to avoid a single one.
(Had a tank in stone core once who wanted to skip the first trash packs, so Manastorm was still standing at the beginning and the huge trash pack on Corborus’ spawning point wasn’t eaten and ripped the group apart…)