No I want them to tune delves to they aren’t throwing groups of mobs at you that deal 2 mil damage within a second collectively, don’t think that’s a huge ask. You wanna make a boss a challenge? cool, but a challenge would imply there’s actually a chance to beat it rather than it being impossible. Not every delve is equal, some are eiser on the same tier than others, but that too is a problem. Mechanics can change, but when those changes result in a delve being impossible to complete for multiple classes and builds, it’s a big problem.
What’s the issue? You’re a Paladin, historically one of the best solo classes in the game. I’ve solo’d a few delves T8 at ilvl565 Warrior (done Fury and Prot) (oh I streamed some of it too so you can check BLRBazz on Twitch for proof), deathless for some of them. Thats 35 ilvl below the recommended.
The Delves are NOT overtuned, they are undertuned for the reward they give, if anything. Better and more reliable drops than the normal mode raid, you get WAY more loot in a week than raiding normal, and it’s much easier than the normal raid, while you can also get Heroic raid quality loot from maps + the vault.
They should massively nerf the reward if you want them to be easy, which you do.
M + opens next week, the only reason there is any significance in the drops atm. Far less will even bother doing them once we have M+ and Mythic Raid.
Punny , if i can do with 3 different classes ~ Warlock-Dk-Hunter . at 600 ilvl ( Right now i’m 605 ) Sems that is totally ok . Gonna do with More since i just need to reach a better ilvl from the other alts
The others alt’s are at 576-590 ilvl so they need 20 more ilvl at least so 600+ ilvl you can do 11 . 564 rogue cleared T8 Same with DH and warr and they are below 580 ilvl.
Did you actually see the audience?
The Audience are in 570 ilvl and 580 ilvl ~ they don’t bother about playing their class ~ enchant the gear (having the correct talents ). I mean just be prepared to do something engaging .
The only think that they want is nerf and dismiss the gameplay in order to get the gear and even after complain .
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Its like with mage towers.
Some cleared them first week they were opened some didnt clear them even with extra 100 itlv and fully opened artifacts and tricka liek those holy flasks and pots.
Or like with thorgast - i rememeber this one particular topic when 1 person was trying to oersuade people its impossible untill someone lineked a video doing “naked” run there .
Moral of story is some people just want it to be complete loot pinatas and nothing else
And I know braging without proof is the WoW thing lol. So I will say this and try to dumb it down for your types.
As a Hunter I can zzz though delves in the same gear my alts either can’t or struggle taking x2 longer… Starting to see an issue… No ok
From delve to delve is different why there is a easy teir list already. In the same delve mobs of the same type can have more than double HP and damage for reasons… Still see no issue?
How about getting casted on without agro… even when FD lol nope no issues with delves
Like In Spial weave I made a bad pull and pulled 8 mobs and lived with them dead… Any other class do that outside of tanks? Doubtful lol My alts would be dead on 3 mobs.
This is it. The “Audience” is people who have no real skill or knowledge playing the game, they aren’t M+ players, they aren’t accomplished PvP’ers, they don’t have a rich history of raiding. They haven’t beat the Mage Tower, and they didn’t care about The Gauntlet in Torghast, they never completed the Brawler’s Guild while it was current, nor did they put time into getting Proving Grounds Endless 30.
They didn’t spend time trying to solo raids back when doing that was difficult… But now they show up and Blizzard has legit solo content where they can get legit loot, and it’s too hard for them because they suck at the game and have never tried difficult content before.
But they still expect all the rewards, and blame the game for their lack of ability to “get good”.
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Oh well, i’m running T4 Delves to open up my vault slots and gear up, i think i’ll keep doing that until the waves of hotfixes calm down and my gear improves, then i’ll worry about higher tiers.
I’m not the best player around, and will inch forward like that (The season just started), i just can’t shake the feeling that maybe that’s the design intention for most players, and clearing T11 on week 1 is the exception rather than the design.
I mean there are Tiers~
There is a point-reason and is already written Required Ilvl per Tier.
So when you want to do something that the requirement ilvl is 600 or 610 and you go with 560 ilvl not even know the abilities of the boss what anyone can expect…
Failing Hard and blame the others.
My point of view is simple . I can’t do it … that’s nice , obtain better gear and going to kill it next week since is gear depended .
Skill issue , check up some video and do a better gameplay .
As a warrior i suggest to start with Heroic Throw (it sems that the Npc take agro of Brann so is a help ).
This is what i found playing with my Warrior . On groups is a bit harder but with just some slow and kiting is doable.
Bumdi, I’m so pleased that you can do 11s. Just try to understand that not everyone can.
Exactly. Some people can do them early and get that prestige but again do not need to be jerks about it. I don’t doubt that there is a some class disparity for some too. Torghast really suffered with the class disparity and powers.
Couple of guildies did all their dealthless runs in 11s with a tank/healer combo and using Bran as dps. There are all sorts of things people have done to get it to work for them.
However this isn’t meant to be the mage tower, it’s meant to be slightly more challenging content for open world players. So for the audience it was made for I can understand some are having troubles and instead of turning on each other it’s so much nicer when people try to help others with hints and tips.
A friend told me to go tank and use dps Bran and I would never have considered trying it otherwise. Brann is a far better dps than he is a healer. That’s how I did my 10 and I will eventually probably do my deathless 11 that way. At present I’m doing not good enough at tanking and there is too much panicking on my part.
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The dreadpit is quite a good one to solo (or group up with). Spellwarding / bubble / AD / along with the new hero talent basically allows you to facetank all the stinging swarms. The swarm has a 60 yard range so any party members can outrange it. You just need to know when the swarm is coming and advance in the opposite direction.
If you get the one where you throw a widget to disorient the kobyss mobs they detonate on death meaning you can semi obliterate packs with careful positioning. You may just have to reset if the mini bosses come up in a place you cant skip (not sure if invis works).
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If you want to solo the T11 achievement (I haven’t tried it yet but it will be fine), do one of the fungal dungeons. The Sporebits will kill almost everything on explosion which means all you have to do is explode them on the mobs and move on every pack, the bosses are also mostly avoidable damage and they can be easily kited.
Don’t do one with a hard boss like Waterworks.
Thanks will give that a whirl
Achievement proves nothing. You’re lying.
I don’t need to prove anything to you, my gear is public so is my achievements, You just have a hard time believing that there are people leagues better than you at this game 
Love how you assume my skill level.
I don’t assume, I just look at your achievements.
I did a Delve with a group last night (the underwater one) on my Hunter. The biggest issue other than it taking an age to kill mobs was the DPS Warrior and then the Shaman healer thinking they could YOLO it through some frontal cone attacks and dying.
You do PvP. Sit this one down, buddy.