Delves need a retune

Blizzard, you need to decide whether you want delves to be a solo experience or a group experience, because right now, T6+ is not an enjoyable experience even when you’re above the ilvl requirement. Challenging is one thing, but making it nigh impossible with groups of mobs that hit for 400-500k per basic attack, 800k per cast PLUS increasing mob health and giving them extra damage reduction is, frankly, insane.

The whole point of delves, from your own mouths, was to give an alternative way of gearing mains but also alts, for those who play the game solo a lot… however, the opposite rings true as it’s easier for me to just take my toons through M+0 in the hopes of getting them better gear than facing the ludicrous, tedious and at times outright ‘‘troll worthy’’ bountiful dungeons at my own ilvl so… which is it Blizzard? Should i just stick with group content? If so what was the point in wasting dev resources creating delves for ‘‘solo players’’? I get that it might be hard to tune for every class and build but at this point the only class and build that has a reasonable time in higher tier delves are Blood DKs, which REALLY SHOULD BE TELLING YOU SOMETHING.

What ticks me off the most frankly is the fact you already have progression gates with them in the form of only getting 4 keys a week, so why on earth have you decided to make them completely unbalanced to further gate progression? If you invite me over to your house, if you want me to leave, all you have to do is ask, you don’t have to defecate in all the food and drink you offer me in the hopes I’ll get the hint.

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seems like either skill or lack of gear issue.

people report clearing +11 just fine solo.

seems like tuning is ok :slight_smile:

Delves are being tuned a lot atm.

Utter rubbish, I’ve soloed an 11 on a pala, almost did it on this priest and am soloing an 8 on a 580 boomkin as we speak. Theres a vid posted here days ago of an unholy dk soloing an 11 and so on.

Part of the problem here is that people struggle in an 8 (or whatever) and they think their class is broken or the delves need nerfing. I’m not saying they are perfect, but in reality people need to learn to pop defensives / not stand in bad and use utility.

I’ve cleared a few 11 delves with blue and green pvp gear, they don’t look that hard especially if you have the gear for it.

There are just fine, easier for some classes than others but that is just the game. For what it’s worth in my opinion delves should not be something that you can do in a group. There is plenty for friends to do together this should be a stand alone solo feature.

Yet you still havn’t posted your video showing us how easy it is solo.

Tank spec no doubt. and proof.

If your going to troll do it with ppl with no idea it works better PvP gear is garbage in PvE you have zero chance of clearing a t5 in pvp gear solo nevermind a 11.

You 3 might need to stop trying to gate keep your content and look else where on other forums ppl have alot of issues with delves… geared or not.

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I know reading is hard but I’ve told you I don’t record my play. The vast majority of people don’t.

I also didn’t say it was easy. I said it was possible.

I think I’m done with you, if you spent as much time trying to improve as you did crying about how unfair stuff is you’d be a far better player by now.

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Go Prot.

My Prot started 8s yesterday at ~555. If things get too crazy use one of the OP Paladin abilities. If stuff is still alive run away and spam holy power builders and then use Word of Glory until you can use a CD or Brann kills everything.

You’re straight up lying. I know blood dks are currently insane but come on

what gate keep ?

i hit 80 on my lock today - cleared wq , world boss ,2 wekly caches bought some AH gear and at 550 made my own group for +8 clearing is with 0 deaths :slight_smile: .

if you find peopel willing to take oyu you can do them below itlv 500.

now if you want to solo them its different story but there is literaly 0 gate.

100% skill issue, especially since you’re a Paladin.

i mean - you had blood dks solowing raid bosses in past.

its class ddesigned for solo content :slight_smile:

I’ve done Delves in a 4 man group with a lot less than ilvl600 on friday night, the only issue (and I mean only) that I could remotely think of was the massive health pools of some mobs/bosses (100m/250m health), making it take a while.

As for retuning, Blizzard have not stopped messing with the tuning for the last couple of days, what more can you ask for? It really feels like people want Blizzard to specifically tune the Delves for them personally, for the exact experience they are looking for based on their gear/skill level, which is never going to happen.

We have content that drops better loot than the raid, while being substantially easier than even the normal raid already.

Then record it or it didn’t happen. DPS are not clearing high tier delves with any reasonable challenge. You’re either rolling as healer and having brann deal damage or you’re rolling as a tank, you’re not rolling as a DPS with brann healing. Or you’re trolling, either way you’re wrong.

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denial i love it, check my achivs and gear.

And i did it as unholy.

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Check my Achie~ Delves ~ War Within.

I completed with 596 ilvl.

If you know how to play it’s easy enough:)

I found Unholy quite Op .

The Best is Warlock~Dk-Hunter and Pala
With rogue-dh-warrior i just finished t8.

There are plenty of videos around to prove you wrong, I don’t need to make one of my own. I did it as damage and had brann damage too. Some end bosses have avoidable damage if you get 60 yards away when they channel. Fade etc allows you to drop aggro when needed to Brann.

Just because you can’t conceive something, doesn’t mean other people can’t be imaginative and get things done.

Exactly, they think we became two of the best World of Warcraft players who ever lived by crying when things are difficult?!..

…No Siree Bob.

Ignore the people with their bragging about clearing 11s. They are not easy. Great if you can do them, not so great if you are coming here making out like it’s a walk in the park.

I’ve got friends who’ve done full clear of 11s (before any changes were made) and got their void delve mount skin. However they aren’t being jerks about it.

Another friend is offering free boosts to anyone struggling to get through their 8s. He really enjoys doing them and is more than happy to carry.

I do think they are probably overtuned for the audience they are aimed at. Many are having more luck in groups, or people are rolling tank/dps and using dps brann and praying he holds aggro most of the time.

I could do a 10 as tank with Brann dpsing but I’ve had really bad luck with the 11s. Did manage once to get through to the last boss without losing any lives, only to be killed with less than 5% left on the final boss. I am a terrible tank, but I really can’t do it as ret.

Kudos to those who can.

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