Delves need to be pvp on

No, I’m really not. PvP version certainly wouldn’t entice me either, I don’t like PvP full stop. I’m really over the moon they are making outdoor content a 4th end game pillar.

Now I am fine if there is a PvP version that you opt-in, I know that you all want more arenas/bgs/whatever but I do wonder who would try to do a delve when other people are going to attack them? I also don’t think it would work as mentioned above, it’s instanced and you’d have to queue up and fight for the rewards like PvP Islands or something.

Still the biggest incentive to farm islands for neck ilvl was at the start of BfA when it actually mattered the most to unlock new rings, and your pvp islands were just as dead.
You must realise pvp is just that unpopular among larger relevant audience.

Instead of forcing someone to play against you for some incentives why wont you suggest how to make it actually non dead and enjoyable for the most?
Forcing people to use ground mounts and farm rep, AP were both resented and now removed from obligatory activities for that reason.

And here you come up with new bad idea, but hope streamers will get you there?
Don’t you see it is a bit naive in current year?

Yes. And you don’t share this with others, unless you’re queueing for up to 5 players (like a dungeon - except that there’s no roles like tank or healer). Delves are instanced.

So delves are Just solo dungeons with infinite scaling, what a waste if that’s true should be scrapped asap.

stage 4 - depression

Doesn’t matter what you think.
They’re not made for you.
I’m looking forward to them. You go enjoy your PvP.

There’s a new bg in TWW. Yay?

Alpha isn’t even out yet, remember islands didn’t have pvp at first versions of bfa too.

We’ll get it changed dw, besides nothing is confirmed yet.

With how they work, it doesn’t really support PvP. Just like existing dungeons really don’t support PvP.

I get it; PvP hardly ever gets new content. But that’s because it’s not popular. Sorry.

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Oh i didn’t know you were the wow delve designer!

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Sure you do :rofl:

They’ve described them pretty extensively.
Maybe go watch the VoD?
You might learn something.

Aren’t you the clown the always wants to have a choice for stuff like this?

Hypocrite much?

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He obviously didn’t watch blizzcon

They want it when it only benefits them.

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This is the only good suggestion there but it should be an opt-in feature. Wow isn’t dark souls.

No. I’m not a clown.

Not at all.
If he had asked for optional PvP versions of delves, as is, I would have been fine with it. But he asked for EXTRAS. More speeds, extra rewards, etc. That’s a big nono. That’s not a choice; that’s being greedy and wanting to turn PvP delves into a trap for non PvPers, just to live out some sick fantasies about ruining other people’s gameplay.

:dracthyr_shrug:

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Let people turn pvp on that want to but don’t give them extra for doing it. That’s what wow has been doing wrong in some of the expansions. Making people feel forced to do stuff. Also 5x more stuff for turning on pvp is nuts.

If not enough people are doing pvp it’s because people don’t want to do it. Forcing it isn’t the answer.

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Yeah but we have roleplayer rabbit killers telling me having more options is bad.

Since when are gold and rep unique and only relevant for PvE? We still play the same game. I always liked to do both: I do PvE quickly in 2 weeks to KsHero, and then I usually play world PvP and BGs while raiding a bit on the side, if I feel like it. Everyone enjoys the game differently. There is nothing “stupid” about cross play and playing variety. Not everyone has PvP allergy, but for PvP-allergic people can also just turn it off.

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Yeah, if funny, he hasn’t changed at all.

The hypocrisy is so amusing.

Always wanted to have a choice for everyone to play they way to want.

“Let’s ADD a pvp Modus”

Continues to throw a tantrum.