Delves now actually need a Mythic track

From the Midnight patch notes:

Fully collecting a class set’s appearances now unlocks all lower difficulty variants. For example, collecting all Mythic appearances will automatically unlock the Heroic, Normal, and Raid Finder variants while unlocking Heroic would only unlock Normal and Raid Finder, etc. Eligible sets will be marked as such in the set collection UI. This change is retroactive to all legacy content. Items will no longer change their appearance when upgraded.

That means it will no longer be possible for delvers to get the mythic tier set appearance by upgrading heroic items. Making it unattainable for solo players. If delves are truly an end game pillar, they will need a mythic tier beyond tier 11.

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I think we should be able to, just have it take longer.

They said in the Dev Panel that they’d be increasing rewards via the difficulty of the prey system in vault. But I have no idea what level they intend to implement at this stage.

They said prey system will bring rewards up to heroic track from the vault, so no no. Same cap as Delves.

This might actually be the change that will make me not keep a WoW subscription for more than one season per expansion. I returned to the game for delves, and had so much fun farming transmogs there. If i can’t do that anymore i just don’t see the point of keeping the 12 months subscription. In fact, i just cacelled it.

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Depending on how much time you have left, you should have waited. If we get another mount before your time is up, you’d get it for free, but not if the sub is canceled.

But I totally get where you’re coming from. It’s not the only reason for me to continue doing delves, but definitely part of it. This is a bad change that needs Blizzard to act accordingly or they risk alienating a BIG part of their playerbase.

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Ah I guess that’s still good but not what you are looking for.

Heroic track is more than fine, guess it worked pretty well in TWW.

If I want mythic track, I will do +10s. Raiding is not an option for me.

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Yes, i still had a long time left on my subscription. But i wanted to send a clear message with the comment i left at the end of the cancellation. If M+ is the only true endgame pillar again, i’m out.

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Then they need to add another reward. Mythic ++ appearances for those that actually do the hardest content in the game.

And you will be back here claiming you also want to collect it.

I wouldn’t even need actual myth gear.

Just the ‘mythic tier appearance unlock’. If they’d offer that, I’d be fine with it.
And yeah: Offer that to M+ too. Completely fine with me.

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0 interest in the prey system. Too long, boring and difficult. Definitely sticking to delves over it, so I hope not.

“Wah i cant get mythic gear from brain dead content” :sob::sob::joy::joy:

Yeah, so what? I play to look pretty. Mythic raiders get the stats and numbers, all fair that way.

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Honestly I agree this change is stupid but the reasoning presented is laughable

No reason for delves not to scale infinitely like mythic plus. Give people appropriate rewards for the level of difficulty and let the kids play.

From Veteran to Champion gear :+1:

Two quite different things are getting conflated here: Gear power and appearance.

Delves don’t need (Or can be made difficult enough to warrant) mythic-track gear, that’s a fact, due to differences in DPS, survivability, and utility, solo content can’t be tuned as tightly as group content.

On the other hand, everybody wants to look cool, it’s where “Transmog is the real endgame!” comes from.

Maybe Blizz could shift the appearance-change point to the top upgrade level instead of 5/8, which would mean that for a full mythic appearance set, a player will have to put a lot of time and effort in.

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There is a reason… e.g. to allow mythic track gear offered from delves you first need to normalize them.

No funny things like shortcuts, buffs from minibosses and chests, portal to end the delve sooner etc. Predefined amount of enemies and challenges a player needs to overcome to get to the end every time. You cannot force M+ players to clear 100 % trash and all bosses in M+10 to have a shot at once piece of gear weekly from the vault and at the same time allow this same to a delver who is lucky enough to find a portal to make his delve a 1 minute run or a buff in a chest that clears half of the delve by itself…

And this simply won’t ever happen. Normalized delves = no fun and not in line with open world end game philosophy.

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Jep, I just want a way to get the look; even if it’s an added upgrade level on heroic gear that costs full crests but doesn’t increase ilvl and only gives the mythic tint.

Being unable to get that without myth trac items will significantly lower the time I spend in the game - because I won’t have any reason to upgrade hero items at all. I don’t care about stats; wait for next patch an open world adventurer gear will give better stats. xD