Delves ruined for many

Its an endgame. And you should swet in them as much as you swet in M+. And its not normal to clear Delve 11s the 1st day they are released.

If you want to just have fun with guildies do what you did before : Do low level dungeons with alts, low level Delves with friends… normal raid… BGs…

Threre is a TON of “chill stuff” to do.

If I wanted to play solo to begin with I would play a Single Player game. Not a Multiplayer.

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its a 20 years old game. solo players exist. and in good number.

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And? Is WoW a single player game?

Show me the data of “good numbers”. I can show you the 2M weekly completed M+ dungeons of last seasons in DF. So that is 2 * 5 = 10M players (some repeated or alts) per WEEK…

In DF every time I went to the summoning stone of a key, I saw atleast 30 people sitting there. However, last time I checked in the Open World my shard barelly manages to have 3 people there with me… in the whole area (I checked the /who)…

So where are all these solo players ? I cant see them … I might be wrong. But its up to you to prove me wrong. Not up to me to beleive you…

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Also… What Lynlia said : So ? Its still a Multiplayer game…

now. is both.

pffff really? i have to prove somethin here in forum? jesus. stay in your idea. sincerely i dont care.

it is not sweatfest—this is BETTER against gogogogo mentality…I hate that mentality.

There’s a difference between, I want casual and, I want casual but with all the hardcore rewards.

The fact that made it harder (and barred high end m+ this week) works in slowing down the population.

Lowering the rewards would instead push people to full on m+ and be counter productive. WoW is a seasonal progression mmo, you know PROGRESS happens in time, ie NO gogogogogo

I am glad mythic keystones come out next week, i will only consider delves a bonus.

Try to do it solo, as a healer, that has to go dps spec, and even then, WEB bolts, almost 1 shots me, and my ilevel is enough for a tier 8, had to go back to healer to even complete it, cause the amount of web bolts, taking my dmg 30% and a passive dmg, only to have 2 more bolts my way, unless ur playing Demon Hunter, or Death Knight, you’ll have a problem.

No you dont have to prove your “data” that claims that your argument is true.

But if you are not prepared to do it, then dont throw arround random data you made up.

Especially not when you know 100% its super easy to debunk :

Just by playing the game and seeing how many people are on the entrance of an M+ and how many keys are being posted in LFG. Compared to how many people are killing Rares in the Open World and/or doing world quests and/or posting LFG groups to do challanging elite quests/rares…

Here have a glimpse of how many “solo players” there are in the world. And how much of a majority of people you guys are…

I have now 8 alts. today i did 11 delves x8 not a single death and it’s quite easy once you know what to do …

Web bolts almost 1 shoot you ? Web bolts in T8 hit for 935k on my dk with dmg reduct and 1030 dmg on my Hunter …that’s likely 5-shoot . Every class has stun/interupt and cc… I fail to understand how can people die when all the Npc group In delve are designed in grp of 2 and 3 (not talking the small one with no skills/abilities ) and Majority of Elite are either single -patrol or group with another that you can CC/fear etc…

This Hunter 601 ilvl ~ T11 -done
Dk 599 ilvl T10 done (As Unholy)

Rogue 565 ilvl T8 done
Warlock 572 ilvl T8 done
Warrior 579 ilvl T8 done
Dh 584 ilvl T8 Done

Al of that was done Solo.

With the other 2 i didn’t do anything since they just proff alt’s(didn’t bother to gear them)

So in what zone those Web bolts hit for 2 mill because i did today all bounties Delves and didn’t encounter such thing.

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stop sucking off this change, no one likes it. I dont enjoy god sweating to play and gear. I just want a casual pace content that gives me good rewards. im not playing a meta class so M+ isnt viable

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And you consider this “data”??. dont talk about debunking when speaking with this kind of weak arguments.
My 0 and your “how many posting in lfg” is absolutely the same.

And please dont go around telling the people what can or cannot post in forum. thanks.

yeah, I really dont know what to say, im 598 item level fury warrior, tried multiple builds, there are 2 mobs called Velo and Tala for example, they’re straight up unkillable solo, even tanks are getting one shotted and the dmg scaling with a group is unreal, who exactly ran the numbers?, delves are not fun and 90% of them are undoable, cancerous experience tbh.

overall the changes are really REALLY bad and whoever is doing the balancing and running the numbers should just be replaced with someone who can actually do some math (no offense).

and to the simps and suckers who are simping to the change and calling people out with the old “skill issue”, I’m a mythic raider with 15 CEs, in other words, know your place :), majority of the people are saying its bad then its bad, stop being a simp, its cringe.

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They now seem easier to solo as tank.

I did 7 level 8 solo today over my Guardian, BDK and VDH. My BDK and VDH are both currently below 580.

Before it felt like I was a DPS spec trying to tank. Boss AOE damage was eventually causing me to run out of CDs then die.

Delves now are not fun at all right now. My expectations of having fun is currently dead.

What a weird flex, also queue as healer, and you probably if u did that on your rogue, did make brann do all the damage, I don’t care what “you” did, but unless there is a video, of u doing the current T8 AFTER the nerf, then I’ll believe you doing it without a exploid of being in stealth while letting brann do everything, I am sorry don’t believe your flex. I don’t believe u did a tier 8 after the nerf that happened just a few hours ago (Without the stealth invis Brann exploit) , on ur 565

Dude did 8x t11 and 3 bosses on lfr. I call bs.

https://postimg.cc/QHhZ47Jk

Here is your data. Taken from Raider IO. And that is just S1 to S3 of DF.

And just as a reminder : Raider IO data under-counts the real values. Some people dont even have the addon. So the minimum ammount of runs is what Raider IO sais. The real ammount is higher than that.

I am in my right to tell people when they post BS. The same right you have to post that BS to begin with.

I bet they’re easier for tanks, but tanks dont make the majority of the community, they are the minority, but its a content thats supposed to be doable solo as ANY spec, thats exactly what they advertised, till now they’re doing a horrible job at balancing the game, quite literally nothing in the game is balanced right now, even the performance isnt optimized, not gonna talk about classes and specs balancing, atrocies horrible job by the dev team and if we were to describe them with one word and be very generous it would be “incompetence”