Delves soaked the players?

I guess some people rather solo delves then experience m+ toxicity who knew toxicity was such a big problem.

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The only way a tank with 13 million hp dies in a normal dungeon, if he and the healer disconnects for 4 minutes.

So question is, why did you disconnect for 4 minutes?

Do you think that Heroic raiders would not speedrun normal dungeons? They would 100% pull mob by mob and CC in big packs, knowing that a mob swing takes about 0.021% of their hp. Right.

Never seen a tank (maybe only brew) or healer declined for a +10 at 628 item level.

You can’t tell me you’ve never had an argument with Brann - I won’t believe you.

He and I frequently have words. Usually I give him some “robust coaching” when he throws the potions somewhere silly, peels mobs away to somewhere silly, or just generally does something silly.

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Dungeons are just crap. What made dungeons special back in the old days was it was like this sprawling labyirinth you slowly worked your way through whilst chatting and having fun with strangers, discovering it together and getting to know each other. Classes were also unique so everyone had their own special thing they bought to the adventure. Now everyone just sits there in silence whilst you just mindlessly hit the same buttons over and over, just like some chore like washing the dishes you have to finish before you can go to bed. There is no sense of wonder, no sense of adventure, no humanity, community or joy left in this game. You might be able to find something somewhat resembling it if you find a nice guild, but it still is nothing like it was. I usually just play each new expansion for a month and then quit.

It reflects real life to an extent as well. People were alot friendlier in general 20 years ago, nowerdays people are glued to their smartphones in public places so conversations with strangers are loads rarer than they used to be, it’s like everyone has a wall up. God I hate getting old.

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I think delves took a lot of players who were unhappy with M+ rather than it being the reason that M+ feels so bad for people. You can also chill in Delves in peace on your own unlike M+ where you race to beat a timer to get a bigger number which comes with other issues like players causing drama/being abusive or just flat out leaving for no reason.

You know what I’m not seeing from Delves? People complaining that they can’t find a group for it, that someone has randomly left thus bricking the run and people fighting constantly within them. Players in Delves are actually far more friendly than M+.

I am a DPS main but also did keys on healer and tank alts. I quit two or three weeks after season 1 started as the game was broken so much and still in beta mode. Bugs, unfinished classes, sloppy stuff. I could not be bothered to play a game that was not finished.

Nothing to do with delves for me as I find M+ more fun even on a healer or tank. It was completely due to Blizz and their lack of resources to polish and complete the game. I don’t want to waste my time with that, plenty of other games I can play instead.

The capstone talent for trickster rogue doesn’t even work 50%+ of the time, it’s pathetic. It’s like no-one on the dev team even plays Rogue for such a bug to exist. Can you imagine if the capstone talent for Retri didn’t work, the forum would be in meltdown.

But that’s not what i said, if Brann decides to body-pull some mobs, you bet i have some choice terms for him, but when i mess up a pull, i don’t get raked over coals for it.

I know, I was just ribbing my buddy Brann :slight_smile:

From lower keys for sure.
Delves are simply more convenient, especially for the dps players who usually have harder time in a queue than the healers and tanks.

I think your last point about moving on quite quick has ome truth to it.

I barely spent any time at the lower keys. I did every dungeon maybe 3/4 times to get KSM.

Didn’t go for KSH tho.

During DF I was KM Season 3. I was playing M+ everyday sinking a lot of time. Waycrest Manor was my fav dungeon. During Season 4 I gave a break and returned recently. I found Delves to be fun, and M+ dungeon pool very uninteresting and not fun. I am fine with Delves, and I am happy game does not push me doing “not fun” content for my upgrades. Though I am highly capable of doing high level keys as healer, but if I am forced to do M+ content it will be only for tmog unlocks, and at a point if I am not having fun I will quit the game simply.

I liked this season actually. Very easy and fun. Did some keys up to +4 I think. Now I’m playing classic anniversary, don’t have time for both games and classic is much more fun anyway. Delves are just bad.