Bait title to get the angry people here (spoilers, its true actually).
so my point is, melee just walk all over me in terms of pressure, and i die if my healer isnt nuking into me as demo. is there something im missing? why do ppl say its tanky?
the nice thing is that demo pulls off good damage. thats fine.
but i literally survive like…10 times better on destro compared to demo. maybe cuz im not demo main?
feels bad against melee frankly…
People that says its tanky, especially compared to other two specs, are people that did not bother to read Warlock’s class talent tree.
Demo used to be tanky due to its access to Soul Link. Now, all specs have access to this minus Affliction as it almost always plays with the GoSac talent (but in turn It has higher HP, meaning bigger Pact shield).
The trick to lock is knowing when to kite and when to pump.
If you’re not casting back at them, you’re not doing any pressure and the dps get to use all their globals and all their resources hurting you.
Locks are inherently tanky and demo even more so so it’s completely acceptable to stand there and bait kicks so you can land precog fears and damage spells to create pressure.
The time to kite is when the enemy has CDs up. Setup your port and gate at the start then get away from the port. Exhaustion on both melee then soulburn port their CDs. They will burn mobility to get to you so you immediately gate. They’ll burn their remaining mobility getting to you again by which point their CDs have nearly worn-off and you’re ready to start pumping damage back at them whilst safely away from your healer who is free-casting heals.
Now trade dark pact and start casting. You should be able to get dogs out, maybe a fear. Then felguard stun one dps, coil the other and cast tyrant and demonic strength. Now it’s the melee’s turn to run. If they don’t, they’re going to make their healer sweat.
Oh and by the way, thanks to impish instincts pvp talent, your port is already back up. You can port again. If your port is at a pillar your healer might be stood there so port but then immediately run parallel to your healer so you’re not stacked on top of them. Bait the melee into a bad position out of los of their healer and start pumping them again.
This is all just an example and not a one-size-fits-all rule but gives you an idea of how to play it.
Your healer should be able to keep you alive if you’re not stacking on top of them and giving the melee free cc. Your partner should be causing complete chaos throughout this time.
The hardest thing about demo is their gameplay loop ultimately revolves around hand of gul’dan and that spell unfortunately locks-out you entire spell kit when kicked meaning you’re ultra-reliant on being good at fake-casting.
Finally you make a post that makes sense.
There is hope in the world.
Long story short, probably save a point for Impish instincts, keep max distance from your port at all times, and just let the NPCs win for you.
What most Demo warlocks on low rating do is perma sit melee and never kite, yes absolutely you outheal your healers and are tanky but you will probably die if you facetank 2 melees for over 30 seconds. Spam Fear everything until max DR.
All you have to do is play to live, not play to win. And you will win, maybe not in a fun and skillful way but you will win. Pretend you’re a CC bot like Mages and port / cc bursting dps at the right times equals +500 rating.
The less you play the game and the more you deny your enemies from playing the game, the more success you will have on Demo.
I’d say demo is the most tanky of all caster but against melee cleave not a single caster is tanky.
It’s just a point of view, but in general lock are really hard to kill if they use cd well into anything else than melee cleave.
its even better than any prot specc xDDD
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