Demon Hunter (Havoc) need larger nerfs

They are still massively over-tuned due to the amount of utility, crowd control, mobility, damage and survival they have.

they are a truly overloaded class and have access to virtually every single tool kit outside of Off-Healing and Polymorph school DR.

Further nerfs need to be given to the tool-kit in order to take them from S+ to A+ tier.

Please consider

Remove of PVP Talent Glimpse
Glimpse is a HUGE problem in PVP as it ensure the DH can easily remain aggressive, be unpealable and have already larger reduction then they need

Remove the damage immunity from Meta
Not only does it not say it grants immunity to ALL effects during the jump, it is absurdly broken as they can immune massive burst whilst leaping across the map and instantly bursting somebody else. This design may have been created to fix the Leap Disconnected but if that’s the case, then Meta shouldn’t have a leap effect like the Tank version.

Reduce the duration of Metamorphosis in PVP
META is probably the best cool-down in the game which is why it used to be a 6 minute cool-down. It’s now a 2 minute cool-down that last 30 seconds which I would accept if they couldn’t have 6+ seconds of Meta every time they Eye beamed. Meta in PVP needs to be nerfed by 50% because the CD is far beyond anybody else CDS and the reduction in duration of Meta would drastically reduce the Havoc effective but maintain windows of high pressure but not as big of a window.

Thank you.

The PVP Community

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Yes lets make DH D tier because somebody who was 50 seasons rival abused Ret in season 1 for his first Elite in his life, now is wondering why he’s rival again and is searching for something to blame but himself

DH is already not good enough for all the rerollers half of which went back to their warriors or swapped over to outlaw rogues. Any further complaints are a pure skill issue

have a great day, on to the next pointless post :airplane: :earth_africa: :clown_face:

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The irony of your post is amazing

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DH needs some form of actual nerf which isn’t just a % switch, I agree on that much. Then again, so does ret, ww and surv. When melee are involved.

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removing rouges from the game would probably be for the best for pvp true

No… at least there is one predator hunting on Havocs.

Wonderful idea.

Or maybe people finally are back to their mains and don’t have to play this boring 9 button spec including cds.

Flame shock
Lava burst
Earth shock

they called the braindead dmg rotation police for me but took you in jail instead

I can beat it though

Chaos Strike
Blade Dance

You don’t even have to Throw Glaive anymore

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Where do I sign a petition?

Fully remove is a better option, but D tier is acceptable.

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Well Írony what can the community say about Demon Hunters, the class cannot stay at the state as it is now.

About Flame Shock, Lava Burst ( Overload ) procs, in my opinion and being a shaman + 20 years i think developers made a bad choice by removing it’s castable abilities such as Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning and now instead it’s mindlessly shooting randomly RNG procs. BLIZZARD FIX THIS. That’s my call on it. And it has to change, elemental shaman is a caster. So i hate absolutely what they did to elemental shaman and btw this is the reason why i drop out from mythic raiding. They destroyed whole spec and it’s meaning.

What state? Doing the same dmg as every other dps? and less than some? :rofl:

The only ppl who still complain about DH are the hardstuck haters

So yeah you haters want the class removed but it won’t get removed

Even if it did get removed that wouldn’t get people out of 1800 CR, they will find something new to cry about :clown_face:

You want to remove Glimpse? Ok np, remove Grounding totem which is the most braindead defensive in the game, also remove nullifying shroud, remove double bladestorm, remove pet stun while cc-ed, remove 5 blinks, remove cheapshot spam, remove cheat death

oh the list goes on

so yeah no

this is the game you play now where everybody has everything

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imao its good for the game when blues don’t send specs to d-tier
the smaller d-tier is, the better
enh+fdk sized d-tier is perfect innit

I think it’s not being a hardstuck hater when Demon Hunter has the highest damage now and high mobility. I’m not shattering your knees here but as i do see Demon Hunters, they are easy simple class with: Passive auras that have been coded into class and more actions you do as player you increase these passives. Demon Hunter has same type of natural code almost as Bm Hunter pets. Almost not entirely but the class actually has heavily automated dps event table.

You might just be the new official forum clown. You fit all the parameters.

Let me get this straight. You rating bash some1 for being a rival as a SL s2 glad (equivalent of a rival).

Then you point out s1 ret while you are peaking as a dh one season after which is again an equivalent XD.

Mby bro needs to get off his high horse and drop the ego, you’re an absolute nobody. There is a reason why all your alts sit at 2k peak.

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This talent adds nuance to demon hunter, it’s a defensive that allows good players to set apart from bad players. It is a good talent, we complained enough that DH was braindead so anything that add depth to the gameplay should be kept. Same for meta immunity. Maybe nerf retreat cd a bit but overall they did great with dh this xpac.
They have so many things that added depth to an otherwise dull class namely Small burst windows and short immunity that requires awareness.
Ofc when it’s broken it’s gonna be braindead, just like any other spec. And they should be nerfed if they are too strong. But don’t take away talents that makes the class requiring mastery.

Yes, please.

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What do you peak as mate? A hidden lvl 80 wotlk char?

Don’t bother answering, I know you won’t anyway. It’s like those people who attack youtube video creators in the comment section while comfortably sitting behind their screen and a rick and morty avatar

Ofc everyone can have their opinions and posts on the forums. It’s just that when people complain while hiding their characters OR having 50 total games in the season OR having a thousand games being stuck on the same rating

It takes away from the validity of their opinion. Because they don’t play the game or never look at themselves.

As I said another 30 times, keep making complaint posts about problems which come more from your personal bias. There’s like 10 people on this forum anyway. Doing whatever to Demon Hunter won’t fix your attitude or ratings. All it will do is allow you to find something new to cry about. When the spec doesn’t even easily kill people anymore.

Maybe I should go lose to some Ret paladin now, then make a complaint post for the obnoxious way the guy is doing damage. Maybe I should play a caster and fake some bad shaman’s kick 10 times in a game, just so he can press grounding totem anyway. Or die to a Rogue or Feral 100-0.

Are those problems something I should cry about and use as an excuse why I’m not pushing rating on a character? No. That’s called a skill issue, which is why I won’t make such a post anyway

So enjoy your time hiding your characters, giving opinions about the game you don’t even play, or simply find an excuse why you can’t push.

Haven’t read it but jumped through few lines. There has been 2 things people complained about constantly that being rogue mage and dh. Rogue mage is somehow not that popular this expansion and dh is just an example of a terribly designed class that has no place in wow.

You legit go into every single post having dh in it telling people it’s a l2p issue acting like you’re somebody a professor with a statistics presentation it is cringe beyond.

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You actually live up to your characters name. very smart.

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