Demon Hunters : a suggested fix

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Yes it does. Even more so in Legion.
Legion survival felt like a class that was designed in Mists of Pandaria and it was most definitely harder to play than your stupid spec.

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Giving it back to you
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/delusional

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No one here plays a single class at this deep into the xpac. Everyone already has at least 3 geared 120s so do i.
You are free to ask nerfs which i still find ridiculous considering rmp is meta for like forever but comparing a 3 button spec to another 3 button spec is meaningles. Every spec is 3 button with conditional cds.

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Your 3 button equals to 12.

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Hang on just a minute, where did this extra button come form?
Everyone has been stating that Havoc is a two button spec.

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You don’t understand what you read.
What he means is:

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And a 4 minute cd

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Don’t you worry, you have a dozen of low-CD defensives and you’re already outdpsing skilled players by pressing 2 buttons anyway.

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You bring salt , i have popcorn.
Btw i really think you should change your keyboard , seems like you have hard times while pressing your 3 buttons.

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Who asked?

Yeh i know :confused:

And i’m saying that its awesome PvE wise.

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Thats one of the reasons why MOBA games are fun.You have 5 FUN abilities that requeries you to pay attention to your surroundings and what your enemy is doing and not looking your abilities 80% of the fight.
I’m not saying mmorpg games should have 5 abilities but having to many is NOT FUN.
People like you want more and more buttons to press because you think that proves you are “skilled” and its “fun” and then you search guides to create macros and buying 12 buttons mouse.
So no pressing more buttons is not more fun but paying attention to your surroundings the enviroment and what your enemy is doing and reacting accordingly is fun

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To much salt, people without experience of the class, my class is harder than yours and/or biased people in this thread.

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Oh, but I can outdps a demon hunter with one button by rolling arcane mage. Its predicted dps is highest in Nyalotha and the rotation in burn phase where most of your damage comes from is literally Arcane Blast Arcane Blast Arcane Blast Arcane Blast Arcane… Remove arcanemages I guess?

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  1. Picking a spec which a lot of players agree needs looking at (Arcane) is not a good way to counter the claim “DHs are too simple”. Me pointing to the fact Timmy has a car too doesn’t change the fact I have a car. DHs are still too simple AND their gameplay is unsituational ie what you do rarely changes based on the situation at hand, the formula for success is usually the same be it ST/MT etc. You try spamming arcane blast non stop on a single target in mythic+ and see if you come close to top DPS as an arcane mage.

  2. Arcane Blast is not the entire of Arcane’s rotation if we’re being precise. If you spamt it non stop, you will run OOM, and your DPS will stop. Especially in a raid fight. So we need to consider evocation, which has a 1.5 minute cooldown. Now I can tell you for sure, that spamming Arcane Blast runs you OOm far quicker than 90 seconds (if you’re rocking appropriate haste) so unless you like to spend pockets of 30 seconds doing nothing, clearly Arcane Mage to perform properly (Not just during a poxy burst window, that is no way to measure DPS properly, you have to at least use the boss fight entirety) has to do more than just cast Arcane Blast. They have to consider things.

Not saying they’re complex by any stretch, they’re not. I’m just saying your attempts to make them appear simpler than DHs are disingenuous. An arcane amge will play quite differently in pvp for example than pve, and depending on targets available (1 vs 5 for example), a DH doesn’t change that much except they may press “insert pvp defensive here” cooldown at a certain moment, but the fundements of their play are exactly the same in all situations because it works equally well in all situations. This is what people have an issue with.

it’s not that having 2-3 buttons is bad in itself. It is when the depth that accompanies them is completely lacking and this is what DH suffers from. Their abilities are wide (they do a lot) but they’re not deep (their functionality is not sensitive to what you’re doing to a high degree. e.g. EyE Beam is recommended to be used in AOE and ST so you’re not punished if you use it at a particular moment, you simply use it, always).

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Islands are my favourite. Keep picking up mobs, throwing in a couple of demon bites, until the slows make it ridiculous to pick up more, then turn round and eye beam. So satisfying and amazing stress relief.

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In addition to all that you said, as you covered the PvE side, I’ll add one thing:
Arcane mage is caster, and one that relies on a single school of magic. For this reason alone, it’s already harder than DH in arena.

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