Demon hunters don't have Heroism / Combat ress - making them less attractive to invite to pug mythic/raid groups

what they do have is

  • Darkness = Effective raid cd
  • Best mobility and momentum
  • Immunities, Activating Metamorphosis, Netherwalk
  • Dispels
  • Interrupt
  • AOE stun
  • Magic damage taken debuff

Demon Hunter is the most solid pick over any spec because all of the above.

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Exactly. I don’t get why hero would be more important than what you listed? Considering there is so many options of bringing Hero.

Why bring 2 combat ress classes?
You dont gain a lot of charges over a full run. So essentially you bring a back up combat ress for that odd chance your “only” combat ress dies early on when you only have 1 charge.

So you can ress that player that died, to lose your charge, to then not have a combat ress for another 10 minutes.
And if you have 3 charges and 3 people die, the one player with combat ress can keep ressing anyway…

And then: you have heroism or time warp or “demon acceleration” (DH heroism name i made up) but someone dies on 2nd boss while your haste increase is active.
What is then your next post? Omg Blizzard we need more combat resses during m+ in season 4?

No amount of classes with heroism or combat resses can fix something if there “isnt much use for”

Lets face it, combat resses are a nice “bonus” but certainly not required for m+.
Heroism is another story but with mages, shamans, evokers and hunters being able to press it, i do think you mostly will have it as an option.

If you put on the arbitrary number of 2 combat resses and heroism / timewarp in your party, than you limit yourself in your choice.

No need to expand it to other classes then. And if we need it, than i would rather see class flavored alternatives.
And then we would need alternatives on all classes that currently dont have heroism or combat ress.

Like the critical strike banner warriors had, or how some covenant abilities worked during Shadowlands being group wide (also a banner for warrior btw) instead of copy paste of combat ress and heroism like spells.

When I see decently geared DH I insta-invite, tanks just refuse to die and AOE is almost always off charts, don’t see them performing well on ST usually tho.

Medic!

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Demon hunters ONLY have kick, silences, fear, stun, charge, dash, sprint, double jump, flight, mostly passive rotation, short defensive, long defensive, immunity, lifesteal, reverse magic, and zoning tools

Won’t somebody think of the poor poor DH players and give them a battlerez, cheat death, and z-axis teleport too… poor poor DH players

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First time i ever see a post about a dh crying (if you even have that character) for not getting invited in m+.

^^ This

If a ress is that important to you, use the Engineering bracers.

Don’t forget about their AOE fear

There are no need for additional incentives to invite demon hunters. They are doing very well regardless of not having Hero or CR.

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The DH has been broken for all the Expansion without needing any additional utlility.

Have you ever wonder about the Warriors??

A shout that Gives Heroism is much more sense :slight_smile:

Oh yea sigils! Good to be mentioned there

DH’s have slapped for how many seasons now? S-tier, meta. Now moaning. Try be a warrior, we deserve more utility, hero etc.

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thas’t a good point, we also need a bullet to raise people.

Being able to deal with some of the M plus affixes would make them more appealing to groups.

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Giving DHs a battle rez or lust would really be the kicker. But it also wouldn’t surprise me.

OK. But in exchage remove all the “dash” skills from DH.

You have no idea how many keys were broken because of DHs dashing into swirlies and frontals.

Because that is the #1 reason I dont like DHs in my party. And DH tank only because its OP. If it was a bit more in line with the rest, nothing can compare to a pala tank (and not because of BR).

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We don’t need either of them. I want shroud to be bestowed upon my class =>.<=

Only if played well…

Played badly they are paper. There’s a lot of that in pugs :pensive:

C’mon this is obvious a bait and you people are impaling yourself on it.