Demonology and stats

Classes Warlock
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I used Raidbots for the first time to sim what stats I should aim torwards with my demolock. This is the results:

Intellect

2.10

Critical Strike

1.84

Versatility

1.82

Mastery

1.70

Haste

1.52

  • 1 point of Intellect will increase your DPS by 2.10

All other guides I read says Int highest and then haste. Im pretty confused :open_mouth:

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raidbot is not uptodate ignore it. U need so much haste to cast more often demons more demons u have more damage u done.

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Stop talking ill informed nonsense.

Raidbots is up to date. The statweights always shift around for demo, depending on how much of a particular stat you have already and what talents you have, for example Nether Portal will favour a lot more haste and mastery compared to Sacrificed Souls. You just have to keep simming yourself.

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Raidbots is looking based on your character how it is at that time, this includes gear, talents, azurite traits and current stats. Guides that throw out a stat priority are just a basis of where to start in my opinion and do not work for everyone. These websites do not take account for your own style of gameplay and should be taken with a pinch of salt, experimenting yourself can gain better results than blindly following everything else you’re told.

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raidbots are stupid it wont show u the right stats atm becuz u need is more haste to deal more dps not You get more intellect when u equip higher gear except rings.

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Please… just stop with your rubbish. You have no idea what you are talking about.

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Go Haste - Mastery. It’s the best. Top M+ runners are going for that too. I personally don’t have any idea how can Crit and Versa be top there.

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This is wrong, too. Especially in M+. Haste and mastery are optimal for Nether Portal. How often do you use that in M+?
The general rule of thumb is ilvl is an upgrade almost always, apart from rings (as usual)
Vera is a boring stat, but it’s a good one.
For the standard M+ talents vers and crit really pull ahead. There are so many variables in all of these calculations that it no longer really matters as much as it did previously.

The point is that all the stats are so well balanced that it doesn’t really matter a great deal. It doesn’t even matter what the best of the best are using. If you play well and are good at the spec, you’re all good.

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To go talents in M+ right now are;
Bilescourge Bombers
Demonic Calling
Soul Strike
Grimoire: Felguard
Sacirificed Souls

If you go for Haste - Mastery; you will be pomping out lots of Imps to buff your Sacrificed Souls (with high Haste) and the Imps you are pomping out will do more damage (with Mastery). It’s also very good for Grim. Felguard and Tyrant. When all demons are out there; Haste also helps with their attack/cast speed.

If someone focuses on Crit and Versa; they will lose an insane amount of value coming from Tyrant’s duration increase (and Energy refilling) and 15% damage buff. More Imps out; Tyrant’s energy buff to Imps will be significant. More mastery; 15% damage buff will scale better.

The idea that “play better, do good dps, stats doesn’t matter” is just plain false.

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No, it isn’t false. Mastery isn’t as important in M+ because you will be imploding those imps. The only time it will be of any value is on tyrannical weeks. Even then, it’s negligible. Meh!

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The only reason Sacrificed Souls is used in M+ is that NP is only for boss damage and the other talent consumes all of the imps that you would use for Implosions.

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You’re also forgetting that a lot of FOTM rerollers are switching from aff to demo. They naturally will have a lot of haste and mastery on their gear. Stats don’t matter as much as you think

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Not really. Even with your logic; with more Haste you can Summon more Imps; can go for more Implosions. There is no reason why one would choose Crit and Versa over Haste and Mastery.

Stats DO matter as much as I think. You are not giving any valuable reason as to why would people not choose Haste and Mastery; but choose Versa and Crit.

I actually changed my items from Haste - Mastery to Crit - Versa.

Crit - Versa;
1,4 HoG
1,9 SB

Haste - Mastery
1,2 HoG
1,6 SB

By every 3x SB + HoG cast, you lose 0,3 + 0,3 + 0,3 + 0,2 =1.1 second cast time, which is just insane.

Of course one can choose Versa - Crit stats if the ilvl is higher due to Intellect increase; but on the same ilvl, Haste - Mastery is always the way to go.

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