Demonology Changes

Since we’re stuck with the demon summoning design for yet another expansion with no re-design in sight, this spec needs some changes. Here’s a few ideas that might help smooth the spec out.

  1. Make Demonic Consumption drain life only from baseline pets like your felguard, imp & dogs. This will not force us into Vilefiend/Grimoire on every ST fight.

  2. Make Grimoire a 90 second cd. Demonology has a 90 sec ST burst demon, which you can’t even make use of because of weird timings. You have to delay it for it to sync with Grimoire and then you also have to delay Vilefiend to sync with Tyrant/Grimoire.

  3. Make dogs instant cast, we have TWO!!! talents that do this more or less and if you pvp you basically always choose them anyway. Replace Demonic Calling with something else, I don’t even care.

  4. Make Tyrant instant cast, it’s the only “big demon CD” with a cast time. Anybody who raids/m+ as demo will tell you if you have to move during your build-up, your dps is gone.

ATM, with so little haste, you literally have no time free gcds during build up. And then you also have a cast time for the damn Tyrant.

  1. This is very unlikely to happen, but atm this spec is literally unplayable in PVP. Tyrant can be banished, trapped, feared, stunned, interrupted, kited etc. This could be fixed by giving us a PVP talent that replaces the Tyrant with a Thal’kiel’s Consumption kinda spell or by simply making the Tyrant immune to most CCs + making it do instant casts kinda like a monk’s Xuen.

Xuen has only become a baseline cd for monks this expansion and it’s already a million times better than our signature cd!!

Anyway, these are a few ideas for starters.

An aura % buff if what we’ll probably get at best but these are my hopes for the spec.

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you have reason, but unfortunately they are words in the wind.

Blizzard decided that demonology must NOT be playable.

It doesn’t take anything to make it playable in pve and pvp, but…

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This pile of tauren crap is still a thing.

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Demonology realy need some changes to make it viable. Would be very very nice to see some changes at some points with pets/CD’s.

wait I didn’t even know that. wtf

Agree on 120%. I was thinking absolutely the same stuff.

Oh wow what a load of CRAP, see if all 3 specs were on par then people would choose their fav rather than be FORCED to play what YOU want them to play in a game that THEY paid for.

I miss the days when i was able to go back and forth between my specs depending on what i felt like playing and not what blizzard thinks i should play.

That’s retarded, who allowed this guy to be in charge?..

I would actually prefer a much “shallower” change.
Doesn’t it bother you that you summon your boosted (if talented) tyrant, which is like 30% of your dps and he just stands there waiting for you to damage something before he attacks? I mean could the lesser demons just follow my /petattack command?
Imagine m+, you summon the demon (1,7s cast), then your prior target dies, you switch to another but since you don’t have instant spell to use right now the demon waits ANOTHER 1,7 secs before you cast Shadow Bolt before he attacks. That’s lost 3,2 secs of dps. Not mentioning the other lesser demons who also doesn’t attack.

TL;DR: Please make lesser demons follow /petattack command.

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Honestly i don’t like this whole new demo design ( i say new coz last i played it was draenor) It’s like affliction but with demons…too cluttered.

I want to play the game, not watch timers.

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Making Corruption instant cast would make it easier to direct our lesser demons to attack new targets. Cant see why it need to have a lame cast time when our mobility is bad as it is.

It is a wheelchair and not an solution. We need simple solution - make all non prime/main demons copy commands from main demon or pet control panel. For fel sake Unholy DK control all it’s ghouls via pet control panel, ALL GHOULS - your main ghoul, skeleton from the talent, ghouls from apocalyple, ghouls from army of the dead, mage skeletons from the talents, they are all under direct DK control.

But for us dreadstalkers, wild imps, Tyrant, vilefiend, Felguard from grimoire, all demons from Inner demons and nether portal talents are outside of our control.
On top of that Unholy mastery increases all DK’s shadow damage and damage of it’s minions, while demo only increases damage of it’s minions.
While we have legendaries that implies you to run demonbolt build, while DB damage doesn’t scale from mastery, only from int and versa.
DK can play whatever build they want, with any legendary and be good, while we need certain legendaries to be coupled with certain specs reinforced by certain stats on our gear…what the fel blizz?

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Blizzard ditched the Demo spec the soon Demon Hunters came into existance. Hence ‘‘we would rather not have u play demo’’ comment during legion.
It took them 5 years to actually fix the bugged Hand of Gul’dan, I dont think they give a damn.

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Not worth playing this spec.

dont know if hes ex girlfriend has something to do whit it she play’s warlock maybe its a way to get back at her it was a bad break up.

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