Destroying less geared players

Is fun and the whole point of a number based MMO. Please don’t cater in to the loud minority that wants stats to not matter. After people have done their M+ for the week and have cleared their HC Palaces and what not, one of the most fun ways to spend time with the game is to take your geared to the teeth character and bash some faces in BGs. There are plenty of people in the enemy team that are also usually geared, some times even more so than you. If someone wants to go to a BG as soon as they hit lv 120 and expect to just destroy everyone then they should play Overwatch or some other game with no gear, stats and upgrades. Killing people when geared is frankly more fun than killing the same bosses over and over again but much faster, hoping for that small upgrade that may not drop.

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So what’s bothering you?
BGs are mostly about tactics and unless you’re green against bis it all comes down to skill anyway.

It’s a similar premises to twinking.

You run through hoops to gear up and stomp other players without any much resistance.

Except it’s not twinking it’s endgame.

In previous expansions getting the best PvE gear would enable you to clear older content solo and access some of the best gp/hr methods available.

It always changed each expansion in some way, it makes sense to explore uncharted territory and see how the response is taken.

This being said, I disagree with your post and the main point you make purely because the current system leads to horribly unbalanced teams and the experience falls to suit this. It can work to either sides favour yet it doesn’t provide an enjoyable experience to the bulk majority. Unlike prior expansions, this was a rite of pas$age, you get your butt handed to you for a couple of weeks but in return you can gear up, the bg experience was a complete experience in its own right.
Now it is tied to other content unrelated and the manner in which it is done makes it very unfriendly to level / pvp with other characters unless you have vast amounts of time and paitence to do other content than you originally intended.

I do agree that players who have completed the harder PvE content should be entitled to bonuses as it offers incentive to explore other avenues of the game and you never know, you might enjoy it.

I just don’t think somebody having a rough 50% boost on you in bgs is fair given the content requirements. I have no issue with WPvP, even in prior expansions gear has always prevailed here.

I’m just expressing some of my feelings towards the situation this patch, it won’t last I imagine, I guess it will change again. I liked the old PvP gear system but I accept change is inevitable, I just hope in the future this system is also changed in a way that postitively impacts more players.

You can’t force people to do things they don’t want, akin to a pvper having to do pve or visa versa, I’d much rather prefer that both of these experiences are singular and complete whilst allowing players from either background to fit in. It’s been this way before but the minor differences in the gear made it optimal to farm the content you wanted for the extra performance in that activity.

As somebody who always leveled an alt per expansion, I’d always stop and twink up my character in past expansion boe blues, it’s fun to destroy less gear players, no doubt about it, it’s great being OP but I think balance has always been most important at the level cap.

It’s far better to realise there is a gap to bridge in skill, this means you can improve, rather than a 20+ hour grind on unrelated content just to put you at the point where you can start to look at your own skill and play style.

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Yeah i agree with you that PvP content should make you stronger for PvP. My main point is that gearing up and putting in the work and time should allow you to beat players that haven’t. Obviously right now the best PvPer stat wise is someone that does a lot of PvE and i get that’s a problem i agree with you there.

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I miss the times when you could REALLY destroy other peeps as an overgeared overlord

nowadays there are too many immunity def cds you need to wait through :stuck_out_tongue:

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For world PvP, arenas and Rated battleground, I find the difference quite okay. There should a difference between a max geared and a newly dinged.

For me personally, I just wish for templates back for instanced -random/epic- Battleground and Arena skirmish. And it has nothing to do with that I do not respect or worship hardcore players.

For me, it has to do with that I though all of wow’s lifespan has spend a LOT of time in BG’s on various chars, and loved it, through pvp’s worst and best. I guess I have simply developed a playstyle, where I am a filthy casual who swaps between 4-6 chars if not more, which I did BG’s on A LOT.

I cannot do that in BFA, because I do actually not have time for keeping that many Chars maxed in all of each ones spec, with essences and the right traits, on par and updated also, through endless M+ and Mythic raid runns - just to be able to compete in a Random Battleground.
And I get bored of just being able to play with one or two Chars :woman_shrugging:

I don’t think that any of those who hates PvP in random BG’s atm, does it becuse they don’t wanna recognize people working hard for their gear, but more because of reasons simular to my own.

I mean, the gear which you -NEED- to be able to even survive in a RANDOM BG today, is the same level of gear you need for Rated Battlegrounds lol.

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The sheer fear I felt while defending GM in Arathi on my Ret and a Tauren Arms warrior with full Wrathfull set and Shadowmourne charged me…

And the excitement you got when you manage to gear almost equally (minus the shoulders that needed 2.2k rating) and beat the sh*t out of them…

Man I can only hope that the gear we get either through high end PvE or PvP matter again.

And yes, b4 someone mention it, I do agree that a Gladi should have access to a vendor and gear that would help him burn my mythic EP geared as*.

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dont go if u full on green get some epice frist before u enter u will last more 1 sec

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Well this is like saying beating up children gives you satisfaction. How about trying with someone your own size :wink:

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I wouldn’t go that far with that because what you are saying is picking on lowbies or low geared players is like bullying IRL and I don’t think that’s right because this is a game.

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Ofc is just a metaphore, but this makes the game worse and less players enjoy it, try keeping the things balanced while keeping them unique is what makes a great game . IS the same in every sport should be like this in Esports aswell . This is what pushes the limit in skill

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While I agree with you wholeheartedly but I’m sorry to say that the devs that onec had a vision and skill to do such a thing they are long gone I remember in wotlk playing my frost mage the skill mattered and also it was balanced to a point and you did have a cookie cutter specs but that’s life.

How about you farm some gear and get on my level? See, same argument can work backwards.

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What level is that? My main that I haven’t logged into in 2 weeks has a higher ilvl than you…

That phrasing is perfect.

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That’s not my main either :smiley:, haven’t loged into my main since Legion and he has a higher ILV than you btw.

stop complain do some mythic plus get gear silver plate or do some raids

You shouldn’t HAVE to… For rated BG, maybe, but not for casual Random BG

So true.

Too bad you can’t actually stomp nubs as hard as you could before. There are also no more oneshots in the game.

People whined so much, that after retarded templates we now have classes that are all too similar for balance’s sake. Everyone are equal, no hardcounters anymore, no rock-paper-skissors. Well except DH. DH are scissors and we are all paper :smile:

Now they’re crying that pvp isn’t fun anymore. Lol.

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so treu take only few mint running mythic plus get gear u need also lot oter ways u cen get geard lol

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Got it. Cow think it’s fun to farm boring content so he can for once kill other players.

I still would rather have access to a pvp vendor. Even if that reduces the fun for the likes of you… or hell, especially since it reduces the fun for you.

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