Destruction Warlock Problem

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I dont think if its possible to fix destruction warlock in midnight. I hit 2700. But what cost?

I HAVE TO PUT 1000x MORE EFFORT THAN OTHERS TO HIT 2700.

While devourers can play with their feet and hit 2700 EAAASILY.

I dont think chaos bolt, soulfire would fix that. ITS ALL ABOUT THE DESIGN.

There are classes and specs that its almost impossible to hit them with chaos bolt. Like every class have lot of tools to break your chaos bolt casting without kick. Its 2026, all classes have huge mobilities and spells. And most of them counters destruction warlock easily.

Thats my point. Destruction Warlock is most counterable spec and class in the game. All you damage comes from your 2 seconds casting spell. And no brainer its HARDEST SPEC in the game. (I have played all other specs and classes in the game, I been playing this game for 15 years.)

All I think, we need REWORK. Not stupid buffs, the problem is our demode design.

Maybe instant shadowfury with 30 sec cooldown would bring back destruction warlock to the game. (Unless it forces us to give up Mortal Coil or Howl of Terror.)

These are my ideas. Sorry for being mad. Playing destro all day makes you angry. Its so hard to take all focus in arena whole game.

I dont have something to tell about pve for destruction warlock. Easiest spec in the game to do pve. But hardest spec in the game to do pvp.

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The problem of many caster in PvP. Class designs are made too much with PvE in mind and PvP only regards honor talents.

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Its even harder for destro I believe.

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I have warlock and I think all of its specs are the worst dps design for pvp of the entire expansion so I believe you.

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I feel like Destro’s time will come at some point in the expansion. In theory they are able to deal huge damage, even the chaosbolts from my undergeared lock are slapping hard.^^ Warlock profits more from bigger healthpools and slower pacing than a lot of other classes.

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the problem, its too hard to use chaosbolt after 2500+
its easily counterable and predictable.

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It’s like a common thing that casters grow more powerful late into expac due to stat budget

In s3-s4 u’ll pew pew much faster => happier

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Nah, its nothing really. Even if lock is let free cast it will do nothing compared to most s tier specs that just delete in one swap. Lock doesnt have burst or send dmg instantly. So many specs have frontloaded dmg which they can just press and send.

If they are keeping this outdated long casts and only hard casts type design on lock then they should reward for it when it is able to get some spells out but youre not rewarded for it now. You setup kill windows and then wiggle a kill there and there but its not like all that flips a switch with one global and next sends instant burst in few globals. Lock has NOTHING like that.

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they can just line it, kick it, cc it, press some minor defensive to negate its little dmg or just hide when cant do anything else. its too easy to counter destro and demo, both are useless specs and affli is no better with its pve design casting all its spells to do some tickle dmg which other specs in team griefs by spamming something that removes all its dmg.

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People who thinks chaos bolt hits hard in midnight, never played in arena. Remember, you can only use chaos bolts 2 times in a row with 4 burning embers or soul shard whatever it called..

So we are predictible, we are no menace anymore. In tww atleast we had talent that makes our 15th chaos bolt faster and costs no burning embers. So it was the ‘‘BACKBONE’’ of the destruction warlock. It was great talent, it was genius idea give destro wl to this talent.

In midnight they gave us better mobility (double gate etc..) and cc. (we can have howl of terror and mortal coil in same time.) but they took our menace playstyle. Destruction warlock was scary spec. Chaos bolts was menace!! but now, they took our souls. They took destruction warlock’s soul. We have nothing special anymore. Frost mage can do more damage than you while using instant spells.

Anyway I stopped playing destro, I switched to frost, I am immortal, I do animal damage. Fk destro lol

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Absolutely. We’re forced to play with tools that are important in PvE, like extremely high mobility to avoid ground effects and so on. That kind of mobility shouldn’t exist in PvP to this extent. PvP needs more strategic, chess-like decision-making, with kiting and line playing a much bigger role.

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Trust me, if warlocks were designed today in the reality of 2026, they would have a bunch of one-shot buttons, because the Blizzard team is made up of completely incompetent developers.

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I 6-0ed a lobby yesterday with bm, sub and havoc as destro. I was waiting to wake up at any moment to realize it was just a dream but it turned out to be reality.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441770239082758376/1534673475736965150/WoWScrnShot_080526_231845.jpg?ex=6a75a44d&is=6a7452cd&hm=c6b7245cc23df17f16fc2627faea216e7aa4748f90993ede2b6aae7b475042ed&

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after this accurance we need an emergency nerf asap.

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  1. Remove the dependency of Soul Shards on teleports, portals, etc., curses, and Healthstones. Make soul shards usable only for casting powerful damage-dealing spells.
    SoulBurn should simply become a passive ability
  2. The NetherWard needs to be changed—it cannot be dispelled and grants immunity to all damage.
  3. Unending Resolve should be reduced to 2 minutes.
    Then Warlock will become really strong.
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Regardless of lock being bottom in every rated mode for this season, that is the only logical conclusion that we must nerf it based on someones single shuffle match :joy:

Someone comes say one statistically meaningless instance of their b tier specs performance in a single shuffle match in a thread which point is that the class has a problem and could use a buff.

Confused me too, I cant think of any reason why some would gaslight thread about his mains statistical underperformance for this expansion :joy:

I agree with pretty much everything with op.

  • Warlocks have to do more effort than many others as the class is underpeforming and design not good for pvp :white_check_mark:

  • Devourer and many other meta classes can play to their ratings more easily than warlock :white_check_mark:

  • Buffing chaos bolt and soulfire dmg alone wouldnt fix the fundamental problems what warlock design has for midnight :white_check_mark:

  • Destructions design is easily disrupted and not fit in modern wows pvp :white_check_mark:

These are ops points that seem valid. We also have rated modes statistics that would lean towards that warlocks are not S tier for any rated mode really. Its quite mediocre class all in all and should deserve overhaul or at minimum some buffs.

I guess its this, they only did honor talents for pvp and the rest of the game is done for pve first. Paying same for the game than pve players but they seem to cater only for one while taking money from both.

I would be happy to also play the game for free if my content is not maintained even bare minimum like class balance for rated modes that pit players against each other. Its not big effort to adjust few template now and then and press enter.

There is no excuse on why warlock had to be b tier class for entire season. It’s one of the old classes since vanil and Imo has cool theme, hate to see it neglected and left on this state.

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