Na just nerfed a bit and buff the extra leech talent. Still 100% dodge in demon form I think.
Yes exactly u will finally be able to win a DH in 1v1 situation !
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Rogues have since Vanilla had at least one spec that is op in any kind of content.
But community goes like “Kek rogues are like that lol” anyway
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That right there is why the nerf in shadowlands is happening.
Being strong in everything is overpowered.
Most specs and/or classes sacrifice something to be strong in something else. Demon hunter does not.
Is demon hunter the best in anything, no but being strong in everything means there is no point in time there is a downside, unlike most specs.
A little bit of a side note here:
I really hope people that main DH understands why Blur is being nerfed in shadowlands, Tanks in BFA have 5minute cooldowns that is worse than that 1min cooldown button it is super strong in BFA.
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Nerfing it to bottom tier in every aspect isnt the solution to anything. As things look currently, there is no reason to roll dh, and there is every reason for dhs to reroll.
There is also the weakness of having only one dpsspec. This appeals to other classes aswell and its the same weakness.
Rogues have been op in every aspect of the game since vanilla, only not the same spec dominating everywhere, but changing between specs for different kind of content is no issue for resourceful players who are available to clear high end content every week.
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It is not nerfed to bottom tier in every aspect do not be that person.
Doom and gloom just make you look bad.
It has gotten changes.
Also while numbers are not really tuned on the beta demon hunter is not doing to bad there. And because of utility, there are definite reasons to roll a DH.
This is wrong Rogues have had 1 spec do well for pve but not top the other 2 specs have been very bad a lot of the time.
However i do agree rogues have been stable in a good to decent spot for most of the games life, however, there are WAY more classes and specs then rogue that would show a different thing then you think rogues do for demon hunter.
And yet Demon hunter has very good utility and in pve and raids you are guaranteed a raid spot even when rogues are not.
Now do i think rogues need something to tune them down yes i do, but that does not change why demon hunter needed to be tuned down.
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Anything a dh can do, most other melee dps can do better, except of mobility, as things currently stand in beta.
Ofc things can change but dh look nerfed to the ground.
Assa has been great in pvp this xpac. Allthough rogues are among the classes with the highest skillcap in pvp imo.
But all this has to do with doctrines and general mentality. “Rogues are supposed to be like that” - Yes, dh was op and needed some nerf, but fire mages and destro looks oneshotting high geared players by spamming 1 ability has not gotten 1/10 of the raging that dh has been getting.
Thing is: Nerf destro/fire and one of those two classes other two dps specs are likely to get their time, as per example affliction and arcane in beta.
Ret palas are another example. Whenever they perform something above mediocre in any content community yell “NERF THEM” - Cause some specs “Are supposed to be just bad”
A havoc nerfed to the ground is nothing but a poor mans hybrid of a rogue and a furywarrior/frostdk. I can see no reason currently to roll dh over rogue or warr, maybe frost cause of bad mobility but other then that frost looks very good.
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PTR is unbalanced can’t judge how demon hunter will perform in SL based on PTR, I think DH will be slightly better in 3s thanks to mortal strike and slightly weaker in 1v1’s .
DH will still be fun to play, and outlier specs will get nerfed in PVP don’t worry.
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Thats true. And hopefully you are right.
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Nah. You are giving up your mobility to apply that MS.
DHs strength is their mobility (and was their defensives + self healing).
Without your mobility you are very easy to handle and will be the #1 kill target in every arena game.
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^ Hopefully , can’t wait to see that idiot-proof spec nerfed once and for all eventually …
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Blizz if you could just make DH rotation harder so we can shut clowns like this up that would be appreciated thanks !
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Seriously, imagine thinking DH’s are the most OP melee class. I can only imagine how bad some player must be to be killed so often by DH’s, can’t imagine either if they get blown so hard by DH’s what actually happens when they face any of the other superior melee classes…
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Salty much? Show us on the dolly where the bad DH touched you.
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Honor level 16, 41 honorable kills. You sure pvp alot and know exactly what’s going on eh.
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You can always have a look at my other toons, if you feel whatever you may find will invalidate my opinions well good for you chap.
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Honor level is accountwide, which means you almost haven’t done any pvp whatsoever for the past 4 years. But yet here you are with your pvp “knowledge” about demonhunters.
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Yes I haven’t spent much time doing battlegrounds from Legion forward, which means I must be very uninformed in the matter, I probably can’t read forums, watch streams and tournaments and 1v1 duels. So the question is, do you disagree that DH’s are amongst the weakest melee classes or did you join this thread with the single purpose of trying to discredit me? Unless you’re one of those rogues that can’t kill a similar geared DH and you feel the need to counter my argument to save your ego? Tell us about your experiences, you seem to have played hundreds of battlegrounds, so do DH’s eat you for breakfast then? Is it easier for you to deal with other melee classes like Ret and WW than it is with DH’s?
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Thanks for confirming that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. No wonder you think DHs are a weak pvp class. Please continue with your oh so great first hand knowledge. Time to ignore clowns like you.
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As I say, if you think I don’t have a clue what I’m talking about simply from the perspective that I have not queued for battlegrounds much from Legion onward, then you’re the clown. Have a nice day, and you’re welcome. I never said DH’s are weak, I said DH’s are weaker than the majority of other melee classes in a 1v1 metric.
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