DH Inner demon?

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I’m curious(really not trying to hate, please don’t turn this post into this) but where did the misconception of DH’s being “Bipolar” for lack of a better word come from?
Arguing with the inner demon etc?
The Illidan novel explicitly states that Inner demon is well. The Elf. Rather bluntly :slight_smile:

Obviously not everyone is going to read it, but where did the original Idea come from? Really just curious. It’s so widespread that I have just shrugged myself and decided to roll with it on my DH :smiley:

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They bind demonic essences inside their body.

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No yeah they do, I’m just curious where the idea of there being 2 people in the drivers seat that seems to be so widespread has emerged… Not even the game reinforces this point. Varedis Felsoul for example, has joined the legion, given into the full on Fel fun and is still Varedis Felsoul. (I’m newish/very casual to wow RP)

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I’m not very far within the lore of the Illidari, but seeing as they’re just very unstable beings this can definitly translate into their behaviour.
But to portray them with split personality disorder might be a bit to much.

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There’s the boss in Serpentshrine cavern- The belf demon hunter who, when you get his health low enough, loses control over his inner demon and it takes over.

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inconsistent portrayal on blizz’s end, really. One moment it’s just the elf, the other it’s actually a demonic presence vying for control to release its soul.

I consider both valid just to spare my mental health the trouble.

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I think a lot of RP surrounding it is flavour. A lot has been open to interpretation because of the way Blizzard have written DHs, but you are indeed binding yourself to a demon soul. Within reasonable limits, portrayals of the inner demon can be unique and give flavour between characters, but take Illidan’s boss fights in Black Temple and Mythic Nighthold - The Demon Within is you. But clearly, one that is warped by the demon you host. That is what must be remembered. You can’t project that demon soul as the demon it once was.

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Think that’s a case of a Demon Hunter binding way more than he can chew to himself… which resulted in an improper absorbtion.

Ideally the demon souls just get turned into soup which the DH uses as fuel.

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Also, don’t forget that Illidan was and so very different from current Demon Hunters. He was gifted straight up power from Sargeras himself, rather than taking it by force.

Regarding the topic, it is definitely Blizz’s portrayal of it. The book states that Valdris realises it’s just him being insane.

It’s also said that Demon Hunter thoughts of betraying everyone and joining the Legion is the Demon influencing their mind. So it can be either in my opinion.

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Yeah, Illidan’s backstory is most certainly unique despite being the original Demon Hunter. That needs to be recognised, and it needs to be noted that you’re merging souls, so it can certainly be both. You’re fighting for the control to remain as you, not become your demon, but you are still the host soul. The original. As is your body.

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Ok fair Points being made here. Another point we IMO need to consider in general when using Illidan as a baseline is that well… he didn’t go all super sayan till the Skull of Gul’Dan munching fiasco.

The only other lorewise Imo DH that is even close to illidan(And I think thats the cause of the inconsistencies and perception issues) would be the PC(I.E The slayer)

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The problem is that Vandel seems to forget this little fact right after he had this epiphany.

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This was how I went about it as well. Between sources citing the Demon Within as literally being an entity within the Demon Hunters, and others (Vandel) coming at it as more of a metaphor for their own inner darkness, I’m just giving the green light for either take on it.

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The general consensus is that it depends on how much control over the demon you have. If you don’t have a whole lot of control and it isn’t actually contained, then yeah, it’s probably going to have more of an influence over your character.

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The virgin demon hunter:

  • Unstable, prone to losing control to inner demon.
  • Hasn’t actually sacrificed anything, didn’t want to train hard like everybody else and just took the easy way.
  • Class leader got set aside by his own brother ( a guy that spends more time asleep than awake) in his quest for love.
  • Can’t wear clothes
  • Doesn’t even have proper wings, too weak to even fly with them.
  • Everyone hates you

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The chad Zandalari Demoniac

  • Were binding demons more successfully and masterfully long before any demon hunter tried it.
  • Doesn’t suffer massive edginess, deformation and/or prejudice, looks great both pre and post-ritual
  • Probably has an actual family and great life, loved by his people and community
  • Wears luxurious, awe-inspiring and fashionable robes made of runecloth
  • Actually takes a noble risk for the sake of his people, rather than when it’s already too late.
  • So powerful a class Blizzard had to soft-retcon them not to overwhelm DH’s.
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A moment of silence for all the people who were going to make zandalari warlocks.

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But at least we got monk!

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the whole prelate stuff should have just died with their Loa and make way for the superior Zandalari Warlock aesthetic and themes

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nah prelate’s good, they simply didn’t need monk, if a race having all normal classes is such a horror to Blizz.

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it would be good if blizz hadn’t done warlock players dirty and caving in at the very last moment with replacing zanda locks with paladins

im more disappointed by the way they were added at the expense of a part of a playerbase than the race-class combo itself

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