So I did normal raid today, got parses around 95% and I had lower dmg than hunt with 50% parses … seriously DH needs some love.
What about your’s raiding experiences so far ?
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It’s a joke that a class with 2 specs has had 1 dead spec every expac
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Yea … I am just afraid Blizz is gonna nerf The Hunt (I am not nightfae but it is pretty much the only spell we got atm that hits somewhat hard) and spirit bomb and make both of our specs totally useless … I just do not understand how a class with 1 dps spec can be doing tank dps and with 95% parses you get outdpsd by a hunt with 50% parses … It just makes me sad tbh.
bad, not only that you parsed 45% above, but gear does not even save us either … And i would gladly get back to dungeons where i can do something at all, but i need the damn legendary from raid … oh boi
Blizzard mindset: a simple spec is not allowed to do high dps. So in other words they’re making DH suffer for their own terrible class design.
That doesnt work…theres other simple specs BM is even simpler. Why doesnt it suffer?
Also i couldnt do anything yesterday since our server decided once again to stop working …tried doing some m+ lost to a rogue and mage in dps badly event the healer was near mine 
after that the server just collapsed and i gave up.
BM is mediocre though. I don’t know if it’s DH tier but it could use a buff, especially when they nerf MM. We’ll have no viable spec out of 3.
But yeah I feel for you guys.
It feels really really bad, can’t do dps for the life of me.
We are last dps atm. Hunter has 3 dps specs where at least 1 of them always performs well. We have 1…and we are last
Thats the thing, we are not performing that much worse than fury, but fury can respec to arms and be very much okay (which is not optimal if you love fury playstyle but at least you do not have to reroll).
Also the fact that you can perform at the peak of your class and do worse than someone mediocre sucks hard.
Hopefully if we are loud blizz will notice and see how bad the differences between dps are atm.
I mean, I am not going to argue that we are actually amazing dps but if even the healer was close to you there must have been something wrong on your end.
Dunno it was paladin healer. I mean i beat him but he was there high up in dps. I lost to the rogue and mage really badly though in ST
Elysian Decree needs a huge nerf.
The Hunt needs a nerf.
EVERYTHING Havoc needs a buff.
Some things Vengeance (only to counteract the borrowed power nerfs) need a buff.
Again, we’re stuck to borrowed power, with our entire toolkit - at least Havoc (except for Eye Beam) - being just straight up rubbish.
Yep, fully agree.
Given that since our Legendary weapons which made the DH cool was taken away … they went ahead and nerfed most of our defensive abilities in Havok (dodge removed, dmg reduction reduced, leech reduced) when other chars have complete damage nullification we had 1 skill to reduce damage and even that got nerfed.
Make Demon Hunters Great Aagain! A campaign for the improvement of DemonHunters.
I got parses around 80% yet my damage was just above the healers and tanks and yes there were also hunters in my group with 50% parses who outperformed me on damage significantly…
Also no one will pvp with me.
I advertise in LFG but no one joins. And when I try to join a group I get declined.
Stoopz made another great video.
In this video he mentions how a lot of people remember MOP for being some of the most fun balance wow has seen. The reason being, that every class felt powerful.
His idea for balance is not to nerf things, but to bring classes up that are doing badly. If Blizzard were going to bring all of these other classes up, why did they bring DH down so far? If everyone feels more powerful now, why do you need to remove the fun from classes that were already feeling good?
I’ve worked so hard as a new player to learn all the systems in wow. UI customising, addons, my class. Just understanding the world and gearing systems and best ways to navigate everything and make plans for efficient playing is a lot to take in. There is so much information to absorb for me on top of all the new expansion stuff. Yet I’ve managed to get into a mythic raiding guild and had parses at 84% on shriekwing. I’d say that’s pretty good for someone that started playing a few days before pvp scaling was removed.
I knew I would have to prove myself more than others so I’ve been putting in many more hours into my character.
Like buying all my honor gear then maxing honor again the night before wednesday morning so I could upgrade it. I woke up at 7:30am on wednesday, did mythic + all day as many times as I could before we raided at 8pm for as much loot as possible. I made the most expensive agility pots and took velied augment runes with all the normal extras like food and flasks and the best enchants. We even did leather runs during the weeks for mythic 0 and ofc I did every one I could. I managed to get traded a couple of extra items this way.
But apparently choosing a beginner friendly class was a mistake as a new player who wanted to actually exprience all of wow. Like getting the best loot and being super powerful, IE joining a mythic raiding guild and doing the raids on hard mode the most fun mode!!! I knew I was a dedicated and skilled enough gamer to be able to do it. Isn’t this what wow player base and blizzard wants, new players like myself who will actually do all the stuff required and turn up regularly to help you take down mythic raid bosses!?
I’ve done the work. I’ve fu**ing played my god damn heart out! For what, just to have a class that can barely do more damage than a tank?
So you pay a monthly fee, do all the work I have, put in hundreds of hours into a character, just to find out that you can pick a class that will be refused positions in raid and no one will play pvp with you?
I mean I’m a Demon Hunter playing Venthyr in CASTLE NATHRIA. Yet I’m THE LOWEST dmg in the raid, aesthetically that just looks and feels really dumb. The shadow dragon gladiator mount on a DH with Venthyr mog! POGCHAMP! Yet looks like I’ll never have the power to earn that mount.
New player experience on a DH sucks…
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demon hunter is not bad via damage from a pvp point of view…the big problem is it has a big problem with taking damage…I get hit so hard in the arena I feel the pain irl.
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It has problem in both imo, if you compare the pressure arms/rog/uhdk/feral/ww can do and compare it to DH, DH slaps like a wet noodle imo.
yes DH IS REALLY WEAK i qq dh.i go play monk. thx the blizz nerf nerf nerf troll on hunter demon!!! i very love the dh.bc blizz nerf him!!! 
Any DEV reading this forum? DH is weak guys. Last week I ding to 60 level. I have 150 ilvl right now. Last night an 51 lvl warrior beated my a** in dps meter I played serious, followed the dps rotation for havoc DH and I got beaten by a 51 lvl warrior lol. Im always at bottom in dps meter. Im sure Im not missing anything. DH is weak and DEVs doing nothing about that.
I have to remind you guys to say HAVOC is weak. Vengeance is doing really good right now the issue with demon hunters lies in the havoc spec.