DH - Why so many passives?

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Thanks for your constructive post! I think I take a longer forum break again. :joy:

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But the throw glaive ability is overpowered, having a snare and dmg increase to it is to much. Either remove the dmg increase or let dh us a melee range snare ability.

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I feel like that’s a problem with a lot of classes tbh. Swiss army knife abilities

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I think slow or snare should always be an extra ability. And for melee you should be in melee range.

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Frostbolt :thinking:

Also the game is already bloated with massive passive cc so. In that terms it would need a complete overhault.

The other thing. Ppl easily call everything op and cry about balance.

But the modern addons actually do a good job at balancing. if you compare it to the earlier addons. Ppl are a bit too spoiled these days.

The last time something was really op, and with op meaning litterly overpowered, was when like holy priest litterly was 50% of all healers played.

Theres also a diffrence between design choices and actual tuning numbers.

I mean, like in 3v3. Are shadow, rogue, demo, dh, feral, fury.

Are they really that far from each other? not really tho i would say

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Could be changed, why not? I even need to Talent my slow.

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You’re welcome

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Don’t tell OP about Frost DK

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Oh wow, 10 abilities, maybe try monk, it’s prob almost double of that, lets see:

  1. Tiger Palm
  2. Blackout Kick
  3. Rising Sun Kick
  4. Fist of Fury
  5. Spinning Crane Kick
  6. Chi Burst/Chi wave
  7. Expel Harm
  8. Touch of Death
  9. Storm, Earth and Fire/Serenity
  10. Invoke Xuen
  11. Bonedust Brew (if talented)
  12. Strike of the Windlord
  13. Karma, since it does damage also.
  14. Faeline Stomp (if talented)
  15. White Tiger statue (if talented, but for pvp you can probably ignore this one)
  16. Whirling Dragon Punch
  17. Disable (because we dont have our slow build into a damaging ability)

There’s more if you took the talent ofc, but those are usually not taken so I’ll leave them out,
But since you listed mobility abilities also, i’ll list them also, just because your mobility does also damage for some reason, doesnt change that fact that we use them just as much all the time, we have to use them all the time even, or we just fall over, and it also kinda is for damage for some, because we cant use the same ability twice in a row, or we lose damage.

  1. Roll/Chi Torpedo
  2. Flying Serpent Kick
  3. Transcendence
  4. Transcendence: Transfer

I can also list the healing, since we dont passively heal, we actually have to press them all the time also,
and our defensives, which is another 3 buttons, we also have to press those, it doesnt automatically proc.

So yeah, just looking at this, I can see a big difference, plus I have mained DH for a long time, I know how easy it is to play.

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You don’t have to explain it to me because if you look at my profile you will see that I play ww myself and I know the spec well.

No one uses chi burst while chi wave has no significant role except, for example, to keep someone in combat, neither does any significant dmg nor heals nor generates points. Basically you do not gain or lose anything significant by using it or not using it. It is also a talent that many do not even use.

All long cds that have nothing to do with active buttons for rotation. For the same reason I did not mention meta.

Name me one good ww who uses this talent.

They have nothing to do with dmg rotation unlike dh where they play a big role in dmg rotation.

Ww has more buttons overall, but less for active dps rotation itself.

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Not gonna lie, I did enjoy reading it. Guilty pleasure. Someone should make a long list of abilities for BM Hunters too.

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Doesnt matter if you use them for damage rotation or not, you still use them, while for you, theyre build into eitother, for me its all extra buttons,
and ofc u use chi wave, so you wont double cast the same ability twice.
White tiger statue i said can be ignored for pvp, but its always used in pve.

The fact is, DH is just super easy compared to most other classes.

While you press 10 buttons, I have to press 20+ for the same result.

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