Differences between Thalassian and Kal/Shal'dorei Night Civilization

the and technological development. is a an important part. As is urbanization, an infrastructure. The words aren’t synonyms, even though one usually involves the other in our modern context.

Here is another definition

civilization

/ˌsɪvɪlʌɪˈzeɪʃ(ə)n/

noun

  1. the stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced.

“the Victorians equated the railways with progress and civilization”

synonyms: human development, advancement, progress, enlightenment, edification, culture, cultivation, refinement, sophistication

“a higher stage of civilization”

  • the process by which a society or place reaches an advanced stage of social and cultural development and organization.

  • the society, culture, and way of life of a particular area.

plural noun: civilizations ; plural noun: civilisations

“the great books of Western civilization”

I liked the extensive definition because it gives examples to show you the context they mean. So you know how to interpret what they mean by developed or advanced.

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CIVILIZATION | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

civilization noun (DEVELOPED SOCIETY) … These examples are from the Cambridge English Corpus and from sources on the web. Any opinions in the examples do not represent the opinion of the Cambridge Dictionary editors or of Cambridge University Press or its licensors."

Notice in all these definitions how often the term advanced is used, or DEVELOPED a certain degree of progression. Night elves of the Long Vigil group had no civilization during that era. They had a culture, they had societies, but civilizaiton was on hold.

There was no high level of societal organization or development during this phase… and it’s not to say they don’t know how to, or incapable, this is not what I get from that. Their history shows us they are quite capable and intelligent and certainly no how, but are not doing what we call civilization during this era.

this is fine. It doesn’t mean they’re not civilized, nor does it mean they’re not advanced. They’re just not living like that during that period. This is all it means. They have proven they have civilziation and advanced culture, we are told this in WotA trilogy and wc3 manual. The long vigil night elves are neither primitive savages nor regressed society. They are just doing things differently in that era, because they are on a task. It leasts 10,000 years, but for that period they don’t do urbanization, cities or civilization.

Anyway, what I am calling civilization is cities, advanced infrastructure etc, a lifestyle that is building one, like a primitive culture, may have the beginnings of civilization, and eventually grow into one, but they do not have one. This is not the night elves.

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