Diminishing return on secondary stats

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Hey buddys!

I have read that secondary stats are getting capped back on the Shadowlands.

I’m kinda interested on knowing how this works, but I have read two different things on Wowhead, so I wanna ask you which one is the correct one.

There’re two posts talking about that point: https://www.wowhead.com/news=317580/diminishing-returns-in-secondary-stat-ratings-in-shadowlands
https://www.wowhead.com/guides/diminishing-returns-on-secondary-stats-in-world-of-warcraft

One says penalty starts at 25% and the other one says penalty starts at 30%.

Blizzard, tell us news about this, please.

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It was at 25% but it got raised to 30%.

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Oh joy more fun killing

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Fun killing? Stat soft/hard caps have been around since I’ve joined WoW. It’s the same concept just applied in a blanket fashion.

If you want to talk about fun killing lets go back to 8.3 where secondary stats were uncapped.

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Man, TBH I had not thought a lot about what the stat cap means, but yeh buddy, cap is good. I don’t wanna see a destro lock casting Chaos bolt like 3 times in 2 seconds holy moly!

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Also its not like we will feel this much first tier, 30% is rather a lot of stat and first penalty aint that hard

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Worth noting also that mastery is weird and doesn’t work like other stats, the mastery Dr will kick in at whatever % the same amount of stat would take to reach 30% haste / crit / Vers etc.

For shadow that’s 19% other specs are gonna be different.

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I’ve got 42% mastery on my dk :confused:

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Most likely the DR is based on rating, not percentage.

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Yes, idr the exact amount of rating needed though. Just know shadow hits it at 19%

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for frost mage 33% crit chance is basically cap and first go to in secondaries, yet since 30% we will get diminishing returns? what a shame

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Yep. It’s purely for end game in a few tiers. Shouldn’t even know it exists at this stage. Fire mages with insane mastery, locks with tons of haste, BM hunters stacking crit, it gets out of hand.

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Think it’s the bonus mastery +30%, some classes have 50% (or high mastery) as standard with 0 mastery on gear.

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