[Disability Inclusion] Allow old-style flying in new zones - For a price of Gold!

I think they are just here to stir things up now and not reading what is being said. I hope they change the requirements and support you.

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If they can find someone to play the game for them with Dragonriding to achieve the requirements in advance…

Nobody wants it handed to them, they want to be able to buy it from the Flight Trainer merchant for a price of gold. As would be fair.

not enough space in that limited box.

Oh please, even those who got really sick while using it managed to still play the game via flight paths, ground mounts…and those people probably have the renown requirements.

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Still missing a huge main point that Ion said we did not need to do them now we are forced. I am just going to place them on mute its getting tiresome now.

You still don’t need it, you just want it.

O right, so you are a blizzard employee and you are familiar with every aspect of this topic and have read all the individual complaints about it then?

That they still have not added the ability to buy NORMAL flying for a price of gold is just a spiteful insult.

They, like you, do not want to reverse themselves on their stubborn set opinion on the matter.

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Or you could email the accessibility team. They may not be able to fix things, but they can pass them on and they get listened to. It specifically says on that page ’ * Where can I voice my concerns about barriers in your games that make it difficult for me to play?’ which seems to me exactly what you wanted to do.

Okay, first and foremost they’re obviously not trying to be spiteful. They think it’s more fun, and I agree.

If you have a disability bad enough to make dragonriding mounts unusable you’ve got another thing coming when you try to play the game’s combat. Dragonriding can literally be played with a foot controller

Blizzard has made a variety of features that disable the various motion sickness inducing BS they came up with for the camera with dragonriding. I suggest you turn those on if you haven’t already.

If you have turned those on you’re going to have to explain to me what kind of disability makes it impossible for you to hit ~3 keybinds spaced 3-4 seconds apart with a steady camera, and then perhaps I can find away to help and we can even suggest ways for Blizzard to improve it.

Because quite frankly the old flying mounts are a joke, and they weren’t even supposed to work like this in the first place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZPVNgSZ6w

At the end of the day we’re getting normal flying and its not even locked behind that much of a barrier compared to the previous ones. If people dont have 15 renown at this point in the expansion they can get from instance to instance using flight paths since i assume thats all they’ve been doing anyway.

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thank you for the input and links.

Flying was “removed”?! as a way of stopping bots from flying around collecting herbs and mines and affecting the in-game economy.

Pathfinder was introduced as a way of letting people fly - but with a heavy requirement which hindered industrial scale botters as it is very difficult for them to level up and grind out all those achievements on large numbers of accounts.

Dragonriding was also introduced as a way of letting people “fly” (ride dragons) in a way which would be very difficult for programmers to write applications which might automate the process.

The main reason they do not allow us to buy normal flying for a price of gold is because they do not have the staff anymore - to deal with banning masses of accounts from industrial scale botters.

For such a large and wealthy company to try to save a few $$s on staff requirements, by limiting the product in such a way which prevents minority groups from playing the game honestly - can only be summarised with the word “spiteful” it isn’t even being conservative, it is just pure spitefulness.

blizzard will always snap back to the insecure behaviour of making unpopular content mandatory to justify its existance
it has yet to not happen

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Bro, no. Bots have been able to do it for a long time by now.

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I doubt they need too even, I’ve seen mining bots literally mining the same bit of air with 0 nodes around to interact with, visible and completing castbar with looting animation and all, he was just standing motionless in a cave other then the mining and looting animation

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What is phased to you might not always be phased to someone else. Also, how are you sure that they were bots? Did you follow them around and try interacting with them?

I tried interacting with them, there was no following around because as I said they just stood still in the same cave, mining the same bit of nodeless air for a good 15 minutes of observation, again with castbars completing and looting animations triggering

I need it for being able to enjoy the world of warcraft. Not the instances of warcraft. The cave reputation is basically not achievable without flying. It is close to impossible to navigate on a ground mount there.

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No-no. It was removed because of how it interacts with a number of systems that Blizzard have since destroyed, ironically doing the biggest amount of damage in the very same expansion, but that was incompetence, not malice.

At a fundamental level, World of Warcraft is an open world MMORPG. The idea is that you meet other players around the world and you go on adventures with them and, along the way, make friends and do some dungeons - and once you’ve done this enough times and the friendships criss-cross around the server, you can all form a guild and raid, and there was a gradient of dungeon sizes; group quests for less than 5, 5, 10, 15, 20, 40.

So when you introduce a system that makes players fly over one another and not see one another, or which makes fighting through an encamptment irrelevant as you can just land in the middle of it, kill the NPC, and fly out, this sense of community is radically diminished.

Blizzard tried to bring this element of the game back.

In the same expansion they introduced garrisons, CRZ (and you couldn’t interact much across these realms) and various phasing techniques, destroying their own effort and earning them a well deserved kick in the rear from the community who now could not understand what in the everliving daylights they were even doing.

Dragonriding is Blizzard figuring that it would kindda suck to not have dragons as mounts in a dragon expansion (whereas I, by contrast, think dragons should be way too proud and deadly to be anyone’s mount) and they looked at something that wasn’t just swimming in the air, found GW2, and this is where it ended up.

It is not spite towards disabled people, nor does it have anything to do with bots.