WHat you Think About Disc Tier Set Let us now My dear Priests
Now that the set was tested, 2p seems to be quite fine.
When you cast offensive Penance, it also fires bolts of defensive Penance at nearby allies at reduced effectiveness. It triggers Contrition, so it is increase for your Penance throughput.
It is not the worst, actually. I was afraid it would be way worse.
It is bad. Very bad.
2P is useless. Healing only 1 additional player during your penance damage for only %20 of it’s damage isn’t even a %1 increase on our total healing in raid. And totally irrelevant.
4P is even worse. Adding only complexity and making us follow 1 more buff/rotation in our already “drawning deep” complex rotation we now have. How are we supposed to fit that 5sec shadow covenant on our Ramp now ? God… Don’t we have enough preperations, buff trackings, cd management and a complex damage rotation to do already ?
it is bad. and worse than bad. it is suicide.
do you know how many discipline priests logs are there TOTAL in WORLD for Kurog Mythic fight ? Not even a 100. Not even 100 disc priests killed Kurog.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/31#boss=2605&metric=hps&class=Priest&spec=Discipline
NO ONE is playing it ! And yet Blizz is still making it worse.
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we’re the community here to speak about all those ideas that come out of dev team
Since then,
We surely told how weak is this tier set exactly for disc rn meanwhile why the rest of class got the gigaEst Tierset but for us??..
More Rotational stuff ,
Outside of it being weak, i do prefer it design wise than the shield one of season 1. At least it feels a little bit transformative gameplay wise while our current one is just boring. Still, compared to other healers, it seems weak.
I just checked out Mythic Kurog Grimtotem world logs again now. A guy has made it to TOP100 Healers in WORLD amongst all Discs… With 37k HPS…
37k HPS and he is in 1st TOP100 in WORLD !
BLIZZ WAKE UP NOW ! This is how bad has this spec is now gone !
(Dont get me wrong, i am not saying make it simpler. Disc being challenging is so cool. But make it rewarding now… I mean… NOW!)
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I mean, we’re in tuning/testing phase. I like the idea of 2p bonus. It force you to take Contrition, since you’ll always trigger it, no matter how you use your Penance.
I am not that fond of 4p bonus, because it adds another element we need to micromanage. A set bonus which would help us trigger Power of the Dark Side would feel more synergistic with 2p bonus.
To be honest, i do prefer the 4p part of it, as it is the impactful part of this tier set. I would prefer them to rework the 2p to synergize more with the 4p, like having a mean through 2p to reduce the cooldown of penance.
A chance of double hit on smite, so it synergize on Train of though should be nice and would mean more expiation healing which would be much more useful than a splashing penance.
What is there even about to like with the 4P bonus ? 3rd penance will proc a 5 sec shadow covenant… which means, during that proc, the penance will be on CD ! You literally get a proc for nothing. Beyond it’s “additional management and complexity”, on top of it, it also brings NOTHING ! What will you do with that 5 sec shadow covenant ? 1 More Mind Blast ? Simply funny.
For now, as the 4p doesnt even work on PTR, i can’t test it. But it it triggers Embrace Shadow and Twilight Corruption, it means you have either
- One window of +35% damage on shadow spells every 21-27 seconds, plus one on demand.
Or
- +25% damage on shadow spells for 13 sec every 21-27 seconds, +15 seconds on demand for the in between, giving pretty much 75%+ uptime on Shadow Covenant.
In either one of those situation, you can add the fact Shadow Covenant heal, which means it’s a proc every 21-27 sec of it’s heal on top of a big pennance.
It as already been addressed that the penance that triggers the effect automatically turn into shdow, which mean that this 1 every 3rd penance will hit/heal hard and it means that with Shadow Covenant is talented, you will have more than 1 shadow penance every third.
Yes, this is a maintenance buff on top of an already not so easy spec, but at least it change our gameplay, while the crap Tier set of season 1 just give +60% on one shield, based on an already laughable shield that is only decent when you press Rapture.
if both pieces trigger the relevant talents than it’s not complete garbage, but it’s still a rather sad HPS bonus compared to something like the druid set. It’ll also force every disc priest in existance to take those talents 100% of the time, since otherwise the whole set is legit garbage.
I’d rather see them rework it into something that works with base abilities instead of making certain talents mandatory
I read the description of the set bonus and I just skip it and keep my pvp set … 
as for the ring … same story but I am just having fun with al lthe weird rocks and their even weirder properties I sacrifice overally power but get things like frost shield spamming aoe etc … it´s fun but useless 
good only for clearing old raids as that is my main thing nowgoing through every continent to collect easy transmogs … I wish they actually added a set that buffs direct dps like add 1 more penance bolt or reduce cd for schyzm or something really usefull or increase shield by 30% … something like USEFULL you know… affecting the main spells/skills …
And to note that there are few DISC out ehre YES … I am playing disc this character since 2006! same character always DISC … I go to 40 man raids daily several times and guess what there is me and an enemy disc … both in top 2 spots of healing so we are few but we are feared :))) I don´t get attacked nowadays in world pvp either it´s me whos doing the bad manners… few but extremely skilled :* it´s not always bad to be a difficult to play and level class with no rewards but in the end it´s worth it =)
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Before your ramp on a raid
1- You have to stack your 7 bolt penance buff by casting 1 instant 3 hardcast spells
2- You have to cast 2 purge the wickeds to make it stack and tick during your ramp and not fall off
3- You have to be sure you will have 2 radiances available so you “hold” your casts and watch for the incoming boss damage timer
4- Then, 5-6 secs before your ramp you drink the Toxic pot and cast 5-6 renews before popping rapture (to make the haste reduction debuff fall off before casting radiances)
5- Then on the “exact correct time” before the incoming boss damage (7 secs to 11secs depending on the mechanic) you pop rapture and shield 8 players, flash of light 1 player and radiance 2 times so you have 20 atonements up and pop evangelism and your trinket
6- Then you Schism into Light’s Wrath into Shadow Covenent into Dark Penance into Power word Thrust into Mind Blast into Purge the Wicked into Mind Blast into Smite into Halo
And you cross your fingers that during this, a Monk do not press 1 keyboard button to Fill up the HP bars so your healing goes “overhealing”
So i have now 2 questions
1- Isn’t this bad enough ?
2- How and HOW will we get use of that 4P bonus in this ramp now ? Please let me know. We will now (on top of all that we already have to do) follow on which penance we are now ? Will we now have to count if we are on 2nd or 3rd penance ? I mean yes i can. BUT WHY OMFG ! Do we need more of this sht ?
-Curse words here-
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I will now write to this topic once again… Hoping that some1 in charge reads and takes action. Disc is already complicated enough. And besides, given that complexity, even when you do everything right and parsing epic values, all the green/blue parsing healers are healing more than you do.
Re-consider our set bonus. Re-Consider our mastery. Re-consider our atonement up-time. Re-consider our hard-cast amounts.
OR
Make all the raid bosses Patchwerk-Alike fights.
edit: i guess now the set bonuses have been changed and is worked around shields. meh. better than the earlier one. yet if it was like “every 200th tick of your atonement healing converts your next penance used in 20 sec. to dark penance” would be much creative and fun to play. yet… still ok.
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Exactly this, Disc needs to be brought up to modern standards and use healing through DPS as maintenance healing, atonement should be easily spread and Disc needs cooldowns that put atonement on the entire raid + provide massive healing, much like every other healer in the game has
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