If you have role played for a while you can just tell if someone is doing second life RP, you can simply tell if the player behind the character gets angry by how their writing style changes in /e for example
And if said writing becomes low key aggressive on an OOC level because your character did something evil to their character, then you clearly know you are facing a second life role player
I have had this happen to the Grim Gest often enough to spot it from miles and miles away, I truly think the great divide stems from people completely dropping the barrier between IC and OOC en mass
Actually completely agree here. Character death as the only real expression of accepting consequence is really overstated.
There are so many different dramatic and unpleasant things that can happen to a character that also mean you get to keep playing them, too, and they’re all perfectly fine as negatives for a character.
The claim that loyalists didn’t accept consequence really is down to ‘well there was hardly a death count’, which just meant all the exile, barricading from angry rebels, fleeing for lives, and so on was… what, then?
Yeah, I’ve actually put “No IC-combat” in my MRP flag. Not necessarily because I’ve been attacked a lot, but also so people can see that I am not about to turn their character into a curry.
Sign of our times tbh. You don’t attack people’s ideas, you attack people’s person because it’s easier.
Funny how it turns my character into a mindreading Professor X.
I’ll try to avoid combat between characters (RP-PVP not included in this) at all costs. I don’t enjoy it, particularly since it’s very difficult to agree on a winner let alone the method by which to decide it. We all have different opinions of where our characters stand in terms of power and how we’d prefer to portray that.
The IC combat we had during Drums of War was neat tho, RP-PvP spiced up with infrequent emotes. It was either you or Lotheridork. I can’t quite recall.
I’m known to be a Defias Brotherhood migrant in esoteric and fan circles and to me it’s something that only ever happened on Argent Dawn, on DB Morsteth was extremely crazy and rude, outright hostile to random people and it was always a good laugh for both parties involved
On AD I was ignored / meta gamed / power emoted for doing that
We might have. I remember having a lot of emotes tossed about between myself, team blue, and your elf contingent. That was fun, but we didn’t decisively try to butcher the other (out of character that is).
also unpopular opinion but maybe years upon years of railing on peoples’ rp choices (and the mass usage of ‘badrp’ until about 2017/18) might have driven the biggest wedge between players
This TBH, I used to not like restricted due to me wanting to show off how big my PvP wiener is but now that we can actually emote with each other and RP during RP-PvP, restricted RP-PvP has actually become a rly fun way to RP. Assuming ppl actually RP and don’t just try to murder each other, it’s a pity people haven’t used the cross-faction talk stuff for more RP, maybe with the faction war dying down we’ll see more stuff popping up.
I think it’s simply that these players don’t want to lose to other player(s). From my experience, many of the players who supposedly only play to win don’t mind getting beat up by NPCs but when it’s another player it’s a big no-no.
I can only guess why that is but one reason might be that they don’t want their character/guild to look/feel weaker than the opposing character/guild.
To me the people I’ve encountered that do this do it in such an obvious way it’s clear; OOC and IC opinions tend to align, their IC character tends to do wacky pivots to align to whatever the issue de jour is for the player, there’s little jabs in emotes and so on.
I can’t agree with making an accusation based on one’s personal intuition.
There can be more than one reason for that, though it all stems from the player being bad at communication.
They could believe that you’re attacking their character for OOC reasons, they could be angry that you’re not asking for consent before attacking their character, they could be upset because you’re threatening something that they’ve invested time into.
Rather than express these concerns, they react angrily and don’t communicate anything OOC. It’s still says something negative about the player - that they’re not able to constructively communicate with the people they roleplay with - but you can’t draw anything more from that.
My opinion on the matter is that it’s better to come to a conclusion based on something objective, rather than relying on personal intuition and making an assumption based on that.