yeah but then u also get approached ic because u are rping a person who is being abit racist IC, but then you break character because u get confronted and too much of that racist rp is bad!
Dunno who you are but thereâs no need for the attitude when Iâm merely stating my opinion that racism shouldnât be overdone to excess.
Dunno why it matters but hi Iâm Tehya, doesnât really change the meaning of my posts in any way or shape.
Thatâs not what you started out with chief but glad youâve come around to correcting it to something marginally more sensible
Do you exclusively just look at what most people are saying in a thread and post the opposite or something
I get the feeling that youâre not really invested in any of these discussions or even roleplay itself but just want to remind people that youâre still around
Itâs what I meant but words arenât my forte when it comes to explaining. Either way, excess is excess and I donât agree with overdoing it.
true canât argue with that i fully 100% agree
Whatâs overdoing it
Unrelated to Void Elves current conversation:
I donât see it often and I think itâs a shame, but the more casual, subtles? Forms of racism. The prejudices against your allies where the character is âwell yes obviously all goblins are cheat money-grubbers; Iâm not racist, I have a goblin friend!â rather than the full on âraaargh the only good goblin is a dead goblinâ if that makes sense? It doesnât need to be logical and sensible prejudices; NarmĂ« there would tell you that duh, of course trolls are barbarians without feelings! Yet she had troll friends, she perfectly know on a personnal level that it isnât true⊠But she still believe that from trolls she donât know. (The friends might have been special trolls, or she donât think about the contradiction, because people are not always rationnal)
Just yâknow, prejudices a bit more subtle than âhue hue weak Xâ or âDeath to all X!â (second one having its place of course, but itâs seen so often)
Some times I just feel there is far too much self-insert into the characters that are RPed and because of that, any forms of racism, sexism or even the slightest form of criticism or âtoxicityâ thrown at them is taken far too personal and offensive OOCly.
Kinda miss going around on my Draenei frowning at lesbians because their entire kin is close to extinction without being called a piece of âshaiteâ OOC
I never turn down some prejudice towards my Tauren characters, because it just feels so much better giving them a taste of a hoof after having been called a stupid, savage cow.
The problem with racism in RP is like every other facet of RP some folks handle it with all the tact of an elephant in an egg shop.
That is to say, they take regular RL racism at its worst, slap pointy ears on it and go to town with it.
I think itâs important to handle it properly within in the context (duh), namely by considering the reasons and background behind bigotry in Warcraft. Racism, in the sense of someone disliking another solely because of their physical attributes and believing it makes them inferior, isnât something I personally have seen in the lore. Any attempt at degrading or dehumanizing other races is often founded in feelings of anger or a desire for revenge because they once wronged them.
Itâs also good to note that the âracesâ in Warcraft could be more accurately described as âspeciesâ, often as different from one another as cats and dogs; genetically unique, which lends itself to feelings of caution towards others.
Racism between the races however, in my mind, is often just straight dumb, save for when thereâs explicit discrimination, such as the Orcs literally having an entire slave caste. But the notion that one human would dislike another human because of their skin colour in WoW is borderline absurd, and I have seen that before in everyoneâs favourite Alliance hub. Iâm sure it goes without saying for most tho.
tl;dr keep it IC. Itâs really cringy to self insert discrimination. (That goes for other forms of bigotry too, like sexism and homophobia.)
Though Iâm against using racism as the basic fundation of your character, as beside it would be boring, it is also a bit tasteless imo. Though I will not deny that IC racism do create some flavour in the RP. Even my orc has grown to trust less of some races due to experience she have had multiple times from the same races and thus she acts and treats other differently depending on their race.
Rather racism, Iâd love to see more âclassismâ(?)
Though as time has changed and where warlocks belong in the society have shifted a bit back and forth, but in general from my experience warlocks have been treated like any other classes. Perhaps the only time Iâve experienced properly discrimination towards my class was when I was with HoC. As warlocks got threatend with execution if they summoned demons without permission of those above you.
Beside that Iâve mostly just encountered shrugs or when people have those guild recruitment ads at Trade chat, you just see âNo warlocks allowedâ
If only those discrimination was brought into RP as well.
I agree when it comes to the humans, gnomes and such, but I beg to differ when weâre talking about tribal culture, or clan culture. Castes are one thing, but tribes and clans are almost in some cases different âracesâ. Weâve got the Grimtotem tribes, who many are distrustful of and prejudice against, because of their fur color being associated with things such as betrayal, wickedness and brutality.
I donât deny that, playing a character with certain reservations towards the Dark Iron myself. If thereâs an IC precedent for it, itâs okay in my mind. I also think itâs important to not shun other players simply for that theyâre playing though, and I may risk sounding like I mix OOC with IC slightly, but if a Dark Iron player wanted to interact with me I would afford him and myself the chance to rp regardless of what my character should do, which might be immediately telling them to sod off.
Probably goes without saying but whatâs a forum for if not for acting like reason is virtue.
Can you throw a source, because Iâve seen plenty of black-furred non-Grimtotem tauren NPCs all around and this never came up anywhere.
That makes you about a hundred times better than the average âracistâ RPer, whom would not only blanket tell them to âSod offâ but also call them a fun nick name like âDarkieâ while doing so.
Roleplayers that are cautious of the Grimtotem-looking Tauren, being black-furred, is what I mean. I mean, weâre talking about roleplay here. Perhaps there is an NPC out there that might be distrustful of a Grimtotem, but I donât know as of now, at least.
After what theyâve done throughout the zones they are present in, and their attack on Thunder Bluff and wiping out a lot of people, almost an entire tribe, I think it is safe to say a Tauren character can be racist with âgoodâ reason towards them.
The mask slips, to reveal a racist!
No because black fur is wide-spread within other tribes, too. You made a pretty absolute claim here:
⊠but itâs actually nothing backed up by any official source, just your own personal RP. You even presented it as an argument against the guy above.
Half elves deserve all the IC hate.
Theyâre apparently the rarest of the rare, but seem to spawn out of the moss growing on Stormwindâs walls.