Dk is fun and not fun at the sametime

3 specs are like.
Frost feels pretty good to play but dps is meh.
unholy does good dps but feels clunky.
blood dk feels like a car that you put wrong gasoline in, so it has slow starts.

I think all 3 have strengths and weaknesses.

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Well of course, plate users use strength, what would they use? intellect? xdddddddddddddddddddddddddd

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we were getting pruned before it was cool.

yea i m in the same boat…
feels fun and yet feels not fun.

i also don’t know why dk does negative dps without corruption while I had the same lvl of gear with other classes i was like 50% higher dps.

frost and uh dk single target dps is not rocket science if you think i play terrible xD

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Uh dk does more damage but it feels like you trying to fix a pc with a wrench.

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Your comment sounds like you played without gear.
Blood is smooth when you are geared (haste btw)

What about frost dps? In what kind of content is it “meh”? I’ve seen some frost blast in M+ (+23s) or did you mean pvp? I don’t have experience in pvp so I can’t really comment on that.

Dk’s weakness is not “dps”, it’s generally movement and low utility for the group. If it’s dps, it sounds like a player issue.

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im playing frost icecap build at the moment with 50% crit, it’s pretty fun and does consistent good dmg :slight_smile:

blood is not smooth.
It is terrible if you run into a group of mobs without bone armor and 0 rp.

albeit from that you just press 4 buttons for whatever you have resources and if you don’t you just press bb.
It is the most boring tank by far. (i play all of them, but it is of course only my opinion)

yes it seems that dks are much more gear reliant than other classes / specs.
while being over 460 (but no worthwhile corruptions) my dk did negative dmg while i did very solid with other classes.

By smooth I meant rotation wise. Cause yes, blood takes a LOT of damage and is really spiky compared to others tanks that mitigate more. I still mained blood dk this tier cause it’s my favorite class but it’s the weakest tank in M+.

I hope it will be a bit better in Shadowlands because I won’t give up on the funniest and more enjoyable tank to play (for me :smile: )

I want to measure the class by how it works without grinding needlessly for top gear because that will take forever as dk is my alt.

I want to feel how the class works because because dk with top gear armor is like saying,

“Here have this honda civic” (you drive and have mixed experience) you say that it was fine and car dealer is like “no no no, you need to spend 20,000€ on it so it becomes really good and smooth. Seems like you are the problem here sir”

So like, any class in this game can become “good and smooth” if you grind for hours and months.

For example, if shaman feels good now, it will feel even better in the futute

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honestly from what I can tell is that there are very few specs that are skill somewhat functional and decent fun without have great gear

  1. Demon Hunter
  2. Bm Hunter
  3. Frost mage

everything else feels terrible till you get certain haste and/or certain azerite traits (dh has haze on pretty much every azerite so it is easy to get i guess…)

Shaman feels like garbage no matter if you have good or bad gear.
Open world works obviously if everything…

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I’m only at lv 80 right now with my Frost DK and if the DPS addon doesn’t lie to me I actually managed to top the damage most of the time when I finally got into my favorite position so I can actually go crazy attack mode.

I died at least two times since the Tank couldn’t hold aggro.
After that I went more into self healing whenever I get the chance
and sometimes Healers don’t care much when I accidentally stole Aggro with just dpsing.
(I made sure to put this Taunt skill far far away)

It’s pretty much fun to me right now only wish we would get better set-gears. ;(

My only issue with frost is that you are forced to use the gimmick breath in order to be viable.

Also frost scythe should not be a talent but a frost ability.

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This, it has come ot the point where i cant stand the spells existance… and to some extent the people that defend it and wont even realize just how much it has ruined this class. 2 hander or Dualwield this spell is the real divider and rot festering in our main mechanics in how we do our damage, it ws forced upon us in Legion, to frost specifically, changed from a ALL dk final talent to frost only and not only that the spec is basically designed around it, a final talent deciding a spec? No, just no, even if you are a newcomer to the class and select frost as your spec in the 3 choices it is advertized as a swift and dealy wielder of icy weapon strikes and debilitating frost spells. not a bootleg dragons breath plate mage. and to those that have played frost dk since Wrath, both my brothers of the two hander and you who love Dual wield equally, im sure this spell is not something you enjoy if you compare to how things used to be.

It’s funny, at the end of legion i was at peace with being forced to dual wield, argus patch and legendary and set bonus setup amde obliteration strong and it felt like home again. chunking people with strikes and slowly walking to them etc, the ideal fantasy and maybe they would explore a 2 hand transmog in the future, i was happy, BfA looked good, but then as we all know BfA did not deliver in the slightest… unless you where one of the few, in my opinion… few that unirnoically enjoy BoS…I get why people might enjoy it… and i try to respect you for having the choice but as it is now. and has been for some years now it’s completely unacceptable what has happened to frost DK’s mechanics overtime.

It is also infuriating how little feedback is made on this very same issue, regarding BoS and shadowlands. and even if it was done i dont think anything would change. as i recall some bigshots from the Dk discord and others even calculated Some Killing machine numbers in 2 hand VS dual wield, and found out what was needed to amke them on par in theory for the weapontypes… silence… no changes, not a word. i’m going off on other balance topics here but it really hits you in the heart when then Spriests get quite significant tweaks and redesigns, wich i will not question, i have heard that they didnt had it nice either. but still…here we stand by the roadside again, ignored as usual. it hurts so much.

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