DK is not "anti magic" anymore

Anti-magic shell? More like anti-cc shell, the 10k absorb is a joke. And why is anti-magic zone on gcd when mage combustion is not? Idk how many times i spam zone when i see combust but its already too late because i was on GCD.

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we can walk on water

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10k shield on 40k hp ainda bad tho…

Any class will go through ams like its nothing.

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doesnt matter, its still like 20% of ur hp with a cd of 1min? . what did u wanted? 50% hp shield?

Thats exactly what i want, death strike barely heals and wall is on 3 min cd. Dk i too squishy for this fast meta, especially now when hybrid classes are basically a second healer.

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You made my day hahahhahahahahahahahahaha , btw DK is utter trash :wastebasket: lmfao!!! Like my frost mage is.

ugh what? because antimagic zone is a group-wide survivability cd and combustion is a personal dps cd? how did you even come up with that comparison lol, thats like asking “why is obliterate melee and costs 2 runes when polymorph is ranged and free?”

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Unironically a good question.

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AMZ is grp utility CD, u can’t trade it for no real srs reason for urslef.

Joke of the year… you need to play some other classes to get some perspective if you think DK is squishy.

Mage with combust will kill you in a second, thats how long it takes for a dk to get out from gcd, i don’t see why not remove the gcd from zone so we can actually use it to prevent combust. Mage gets 2x combusts every 1 zone, so it’s not like u can line it up for next combust like u could previous expacs.

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Or maybe you should try another perspective play dk. Did u even read the thread? Or did u just not understand it?

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Always love it when non dk players come to the dk forums to tell us how strong dk is.

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i don’t think you want to play this card my guy, so far in this thread we’ve learned from the lvl 56 dk that “mage combust kills you in 1 sec”, and that “dk should be anti-magic”, eg DK should just straight up counter 22 of 36 specs from the get go just because he’s a dk.

In accordance with the above, we also learned that Blizzard has done a terrible job balancing, as the <60 sec cd 14k absorb + debuff immunity + free RP> button is “laughable”, and the 2nd, groupwide anti-magic cd ON TOP of the first one is also bad because -WOE IS US- ITS ON THE GCD!!! WTF BLIZZARD TROLLING???

Yeah, its funny when non dk players tell us how strong dks are, and its even funnier when non caster players tell us how their <im immune to everything but can continue pounding you, iceblock or bend over EVERY SINGLE MINUTE> button is crazy weak. Its so weak it ruins the poor dk’s “if your class uses magic, i should automatically win just because” theme.

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All classes should be a counter for something. DKs used to be a counter for mages and locks but in current meta they are a counter for nothing, absolutely nothing. At equal gear they cant 1vs1 anything but other DKs this is ridiculous. Just try to roll one and u would figure it

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i can agree, i got one and i feel as useless as my warlock

Tell me how removing anti-magic zone from gcd will make dks “straight up counter 22 of 36 specs”? If u played at a rating above 1200 u would know that a fire mage with combust will global you.

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Anti magic shell should be %50 of hp absorb, it lasts 5 seconds anyway and right now everything bursts through it op is right.

Even mages are way more tankier and anti magic than DK’s right now. %50 hp absorb that lasts 1 min on 25 second cd anyone?

If meta was slow it would be understandable but right now it is a outdated nerf alongside death strike and pillar pvp nerfs.

Still dk has one of the best anti magic defense with anti magic zone %80 aoe damage reduction which lasts 10 sec 13 if condulted is the best anti magic tool in the game.

Assuming you or your teammates dont get oneshotted from fire mage or balance druid ofc.

Seriously casters are way tankier right now than most melee specs, especially dk’s.

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An average pvp geared character has about 40k hp, and lets ignore the 25-30% versa, and pretend we’re terrible players and don’t press ANY defensives when we see a mage combusting.
So please, I beg you, even with 0 versa and ZERO defensives, tell me exactly how you die in ONE global by a single mage.
Is it 30k pyroblast+10k fireblast? Was he playing meteor for some reason, and he precast it, and you sat in it, so its 20k meteor + 16k pyroblast + 4k fireblast? Do you see how many miles away from reality those numbers are?

You keep pulling random “arguments” out of your head, and just because no one is calling you out on them, you repeat them as if they’d make more sense the 2nd time.
A mage with combustion needs 5-6 sec to kill you from 100% hp, and only if you play 4% versa and use no defensives at all during his cds. The exact same applies for a ret with wings, an arms warrior during cs, a moonkin with convoke, just about any class when their cds are up and you don’t have a defensive, nor do you kite/los and you just sit there and facetank everything.

You were given anti-magic shell to 1) help mitigate some of the damage and 2) prevent magic debuffs so you can get to safety. You weren’t given anti-magic shell as a 1 min cd palabubble or a 1 min cd cloak of shadows.
Just like most other 1min or less defensives, its supposed to HELP you deal with something, not allow you to outright ignore it.
You see combustion and you press anti-magic shell WHILE RUNNING TO YOUR HEALER BEHIND THE PILLAR, you don’t press anti-magic shell so you can sit there and /dance while chanting “YoU’rE a MaGe BuT i’M tHe AnTiMaGe HahAa oUtSmArTeD aNd oUtPlAyEd1!11!!1!”

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