DKs are a joke in PvP

Yea bfa season 2 they were overpowered but lets not forget how terrible dks were the season prior. BFA s1 dks were in the worst position the class has ever known and nothing changed until 3 weeks until the season ended. It was worse than dk is now by quite a bit.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920700215479128067/930587302193946655/dks_trash.PNG?width=889&height=521
bfa s1 btw

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100% you are right, can’t deny that DK was a joke back then. Even worse than it is now.

But isn’t it silly that after that experience devs still cannot figure out what is the problem with DK spec. You’d expect people to learn on their decisions but apparently doesn’t apply to WoW devs. For me it’s clear DK needs physical damage mitigation in any form.

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Both specs need serious attention. Frost has turned into this hybrid support role instead of the slow walking burster that it used to be and unh ive got no idea 1 expansion their focusing on pets and minions then they change their mind and try to make it a mix of rot and minions only to then change their mind again and welcome bfa.

When was the last time you saw a gargoyle from unh? i sure as hell dont know. Abom was brought in and was pretty cool but we dont even see that anymore ive got no idea.

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In my opinion the real problem is that devs sometimes don’t understand the problems of specs. Of course you can make DKs viable by just buffing their damage so they will force enemies to play defensives but I don’t think that they lack damage right now. DKs lack physical damage survivability. If they get it they can deal more damage. It is that simple.

Regarding Gargoyle yes. It’s weak. There are a lot of talents like that. For example that Crane one for MW Monks. In the past the Way of Crane was a real PvP choice. Now when it’s scaled to raid content it’s just meh.

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Yep buff dk

FDK won’t be even something in 9.2 tho, cuz of CC immune trinket - RIP combo-wombo. Some specs playing even without CC break trinkets cuz they have SW or absorb in stuns. So UDK is the one and the best DK choice in 3-rd season, but its my opinion.

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we will have to see how it plays out. in the current patch these buffs would make uhdk omega strong.
for next patch it depends on how much power other dps speccs gain with 2x leggy and set-bonuses. but i think uhdk will be fine. like the buffs are insane.
30% more wounds dmg with 252 empowered conduit is so good for coilbuild with doomburst and bursting sores. im hyped.

Tbh damage needed to be tuned too. Is not like DK does obnoxious amount of damage right now into spellcleaves. Compare Unholy’s sustain damage with other sustain kings like: Ferals, DHs, Hunters and afflocks and you’ll laugh.

Wound damage is good. I called for 35% buff since 9.1, yet my wishes came true.

But you won’t play coil build in 9.2 for sure, because you’ll want to maximize your sustain damage with set bonus which means you can’t use Harbinger of Doom, and you’ll take soul reaper in stead.

All in all Unholy will look way better than now. It is yet to see if other changes will take place for DK in 9.2, or we’ll wait till 9.2.5.

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i wouldnt be too sure about that. doom procc conduit dmg also got buffed 20% and coils just do hard sustain dmg right now, like waay more then pet. couldbuild doomprocc dc with 2 wounds will crank big dam in 9.2.
but ye we will see 20% attackspeed on demand with the 12% petdmg conduit could be better.

would be neat if the setbonus would make that every 5th popped wound give a soulreaper. then it would benefit from doomburst and the build would be perfect.

Pet build will be good in 9.2, i think BiS. UDK will back in that state that this spec disgned for before SL released. Coli build was something like ā€œhybridā€ thats do more dmg and nothing more.

They buff conduits - pet, abom and wounds by a lot and buff abom limb dmg by 30%. U just can’t ignore it in 9.2. Coil build in the past. If u ignore this - u gimped themself.

well petbuild is the most boring ever, its just passive and no big numbers. coilbuild is actually fun to play and u do dmg even if ur pet is rooted. some players even slow transformed pet and good priests and pala’s constantly cc it.

ofc like said could be that the pet-build will be better, the burst with dark transf + abom limb would be huge for sure if u use the proper conduits and leggy for it.

but after the difference i felt personally after the 9.1.5 buffs to dc for uhdk i cant imagine that the petbuild would be able to compete in terms of sustain dmg with the coildbuild. if u have good uptime coil is without competition number 1 dam on killtarget currently. and if u look at all the multipliers u get from doomburst dc’s when also popping wounds next patch it will be cranking. since 9.2 pvp will be slower i think this will be preferable compared to a more bursty build.

its also faster to stack nekro wounds when u pop 2 festering wounds with doomburst and gives a short 90% slow which often makes the difference in 2s if ur able to catch up to target or not.

U not bored when all ur dmg going thru DOT? Idk, pet and necromancer fantasy looks much cooler.

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u wouldnt play coildbuild with dot in 9.2 anymore. u will replace ebon fever with bursting sores since wounds are buffed 30%. then u also dont need the dot conduit anymore. makin room for abom or petdmg conduit.

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Pet + abom + wounds conduits - that what will be in 9.2 and pet leggy.

i bet against it :smiley:
doom + wound + abom/pet conduit and coil leggy.

we will see.

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Can’t wait for Uh Dk to be good again and for everyone to go back to complaining how Dk’s have 3, up to 4 trinkets whilst passively countering every caster with 0 thought process.

a 2k xp dk crying that he can’t 1shot like previous expansions

Good to know this clown couldn’t even spend 10 seconds checking my profile before spouting nonsense.

this guy jumping on posts and fires on ppl
useless fly with 0 exp

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I’m not a skilled or experienced player, so I have to ask:

How do I survive against warriors, hunters, feral druids, rogues and demon hunters? I would really like some tips, because watching streams and YouTube videos doesn’t help, and I am sick of losing.

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