And assuming everyone using any addon at all being toxic isn’t making assumptions? You seem to just take whichever side fits your agenda. If anything you should be against this entire thread if you want to make claims like that.
People are toxic because of who they are as people, not because of addons.
Oeh. Another one of those, who does not like something and attempts to change game for everyone according their preferences. No one forces you to use any addon.
It’s not the same your mixing up IRL situation with a video game that is designed with add-ons in mind I don’t see how those 2 are related Rio de Janeiro score is more akin to a entrance exam or handing out your CV to the group has nothing to do with drugs.
Ironicly isn’t that the EU forums in a nutshell these days?.
Then don’t use the addons? It doesn’t feel silly to me.
I failed a +5 UR a couple of weeks ago while being on that char 1200 rio and on my main 1600+. Pugs are pugs.
Ontopic; yes unfortunately the game is unplayable without addons. I have no idea how to play without weakauras for example. This week affixes you need explosive WA’s (I use 2, 1 for the amount explosives and 1 for easier explosive nameplates).
No competitive guild would handicap themselves on an addon-less realm in an addon-based game. You would get wannabies and bad players there that expect they deserve more plus casuals running away from competitive side of the game. On first personal responsibility mechanic you would start questioning your group capabilities. There is no fun and no skill when someon somewhere fails or misses a mechanic and the whole raid wipes.
And what agenda is it exactly that I’m trying to push? Because I didn’t state that I fully agreed with the OP, neither did I say that I fully disagreed with him either.
Your assumption came from a bunch of numbers that you purposely searched for to degrade his argument. The +5 you used to try and belittle him with doesn’t state anywhere that he specifically was performing badly, just that the group overall did not complete the key within the timer. Make of this information what you want, but it actually goes to prove his point about addons causing toxicity because you had to use the website connected to the addon to do this.
Also, if you had read my other reply you would have seen me say the following…
Its a pretty neutral opinion on the matter, some addons aid people in these negative attitudes whereas others don’t have this impact on the playerbase. I didn’t even specify which addons in my post to leave out the pointless arguments with others about those addons because they go nowhere.
Looking at your post, looking at some very reasonable replies, then looking at your responses to them, leads me to believe either you’re trolling, or you just don’t want to listen anyone.
Should the game need addons? Nope. Does it need addons? Arguably yes - as borne out by Blizzard periodically incorporating some features we see in addons into the basic UI.
Do addons ruin WoW? That’s relative to the individual. Some will say yes, some will say no, and both are right, to themselves.
Isn’t it bad practice to say its okay to have an advantage in game, but I won’t in real life.
Hasn’t it been proven throughout history that bad habits follow.
How though? My performance is not affecting others except those in my group at the time. If u want to go and play without any addons u are free to do so. I never expect ppl to use addons, i just prefer to use a couple of them myself to make things a little bit easier for me and my group.
Are they reasonable though? Everyone here “including me” believe what they say. No open minds on the subject.
I could be open minded if u actually gave some real points instead of addons make ppl toxic…
You’re letting a computer do it for you.
A person with no addons would have to do it manually.
Yeah so are u with the standard ui?
You’re stating you can do it better??
I can see them better yes. But its still a computer doing it for u 
But you admit it’s easier with the addon. I mean come on.
Manually as in counting seconds? No you don’t, you look at your timers. The fact blizz default ui don’t allow to rescale and drag your timers is just bad ui.