Do devs care about EU game playerbase?

Here’s why.

The updates made by a developer like Sigma are just off-the-cuff posts. Like I said, they’re a heads-up about upcoming changes in a future Alpha build – a patch note preview if you will.

Those posts don’t go through the official line of command, so to speak. He just posts them, because he happens to have a Blizzard forum profile and feels inclined to use it. A lot of other developers don’t have forum profiles, or aren’t inclined to use them.
Ultimately, the developers’ job doesn’t entail posting on the forums. If they do, like Sigma sometimes does, it’s through their own volition, not out of obligation.

So why doesn’t a developer like Sigma post on the EU forums?
Well for one thing, he’d need a separate Blizzard forum profile for the EU forums.
On top of that, the EU forums consist of multiple forums. There’s the EU-EN forums here, and there’s the EU-DE, EU-FR, EU-RU, EU-ES, EU-IT… So just posting on the EU forums is rather complicated if you want to do it in its entirety, because as a community we’re spread out across different languages. That’s why some news and previews are sometimes a bit delayed compared to the US; they have to go through translation and localization before they can be posted to each EU sub-community at the same time.
And between the US and EU-EN, who are both English-speaking, it is rather natural that a developer would just dump information wherever it’s most convenient, as opposed to going out of their way to post somewhere else for no real reason.

I could sort of understand this criticism back when Ghostcrawler posted on the US forums, because he actually engaged in lengthy community discussion.
That was something the EU forums missed out on.
But Ghostcrawler is no more, so there’s nothing we’re missing out on of substance anymore in that regard.

As far as the EU forum itself is concerned, then Community Management does appear to be an area that Blizzard have devalued somewhat. If you go back to earlier expansions leading up to WoD, then we had four dedicated CMs for the EU-EN community alone. Then Blizzard sized that down to one. And since Aerythlea went elsewhere, we appear to have zero.
So that’s something that I think the EU community can be somewhat grumpy about, and rightfully so.

But the NA forums? Man, they’re the same. They’ve got less CMs as well, and they don’t have Ghostcrawler anymore either.
We’re in the same boat.

So does US with AUS/Ocenia/Brazil as far as i am aware not as many as us but they do cater for a lot of languages .

Sad day that was :frowning:

no they devs dont care for eu, never have and never will.
(which is ironic as EU is the biggest part of the playerbase…)

as long as we dont have a big ascii pic of a facepalm in our forum we dont.

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Sure. And it’s not like the Oceanic or Latin-American forums get much developer communication either. Blizzard are based in the NA, it stands to reason that if a developer wants to throw out a heads-up about an upcoming Alpha build, then it’s easiest to do that closest to home – the NA forums.

I think it’s also worth pointing out in regards to Alpha and Beta testing that the point isn’t for Blizzard to cater to the people’s desire for communication. They’re giving people the privilege of participating in their Alpha/Beta test. A selfless desire to help them test the expansion is what should drive people to participate in an Alpha/Beta test, not a selfish desire to be heard and listened to.
I think some people need to remember what their role is in an Alpha/Beta test. And if they don’t like what it is, then there are plenty of other people willing and waiting to take their spot.

@Rejuvithorn, would you be able to shed some light on the connected realms issue? We didn’t get any more info on if you will try it again this reset on the thread, on any country’s forum.

Runecarver thread is there in the EU Alpha section, posted the same time as the US one (literally same timestamp on the two)
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-runecarving/164863

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-runecarving/579744

You can get there in like three clicks from this thread, Forums, scroll down, Alpha, top pinned post, Runecarving

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omg i love this so much. grin literally ear to ear :rofl:

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You can make a free US starter account on your account and level a character to 10 and then post on US forums, thats what I did

Or they can make the effort for a big part of wow community

You cannot. I still can’t post with my neutral LV12 Panda there.

And because of such mixed signals from people. I cba wasting 1hr or more to level up to maybe be able to maybe post somewhere devs actually listen /read.

And so do most people who play in eu rralms

Because you need to pick a faction .

Doesnt take a hour to get level 10 .
All you need is an active paid EU sub .
A free trail US account and level to 10 .

The blues pretty much stopped using their own forums, in the US at least, when they discovered Twitter. If you want them to read something go there, no level required.

TLDR: let’s tell players we care even if we don’t, post some cool video and put three paragraphs of motivational BS…

Well Mr. Rejuvithorn, while I can completely understand why community representatives do not feel like posting same crap on two separate forums, I still fail to see a reason why we EU players cannot post on US forums (without workarounds) or why there are two separate forums to begin with. That makes literally zero sense. As much as “technical issues” excuses are plain lies. If they actually care we could be using a single forum within days.

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Spamming their personal twitter accounts wont help, they will most likely block you. Reddit is a good place to provide feedback too.

The real question is why WoW Forums are still region separate instead of using one forum for every region. OW is like that since 2016.

Busshocks Rejuvithorn off of cliff
Meme dis!

So… does this mean I may get ginger/red fur tauren with emerald eyes and Grimtotem warpaint as an option?

Who said anything about personal accounts, let alone spamming them?

They have numerous twitter accounts which are not personal and if you mention them you might get a reply, if they think it deserves one.

Araxom, who was a great CS rep for Blizzard on Reddit has sadly gone. Not the same without him.

I’m no using any third party spyware to access this game