i stil ldont get it. isnt any highelf just a voidy or a belf with blue eyes?
Only 4,5% and you can remove people who play VE for be a HE and hate those smurf elves
Dark Iron absolutely need to be remembered by Blizzard soon. My favourite race in the game and Iâm a Horde guy through and through.
Void Elves are almost certainly going to have their moment in the sun in either TWW or Midnight so I wouldnât even worry about this.
First they cried to get HE options aka the BE skin options, and the BE hair colours. And now, they cry for the VE customisations.
Yâall VE/HE players have identity crisis issues ngl.
Unless Blizzard can make a new âNight Elfâ based Horde race, High Elves will NOT be playable. Donât come at me with âmuh Sanâlaynâ or âmuh Ogresâ because they wonât be the counter to playable High Elves. Just like Void Elves and Nightborne, High Elves will have a model swap with a night elf based race.
Also - unless Blizzard can make a believable story that gives High Elves full independence where they do not leech off the Blood Elves and have their own land and nation, such as Crystalsong (Ruins of Shandaral), then they canât be a playable race.
They are playable since January 16, 2007.
I think we all know what people mean when they say âplayable High Elves.â
the problem is that VE and HE players are two different groups stuck with a shared core race their appearances exist on
Void elf however is leading simply because; the starter area is void, their racial is void, their blood is purple and their heritage set is void
Helves only exist as a visual customization option for velf, hell you could even take it a step further and just say theyâre not even helves, just featureless velves
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What they mean is, that they want the Sinâdorei to be the Alliance race, nothing else.
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Thatâs a radical, fringe part of the High Elf fanbase who High Elf fans donât take seriously.
Moderate High Elf fans want the race to be their own thingâŚI want the race to be their own thing, but they canât be playable if they donât have their own nation and unless their is a night elf horde counterpart race on the horizon.
I doubt theyâll have their own nation tho, thereâs 2 types of Quelâdorei and all of them left their society before they even joined the horde (they were mad at kaelâthas for vibing in dalaran when the scourge attacked as one of the main reason)
One is the isolationist lodger who mostly just stick to their lodges, the other is the type that defected to the alliance (which silvermoon was not a part of iirc, anestarian didnât see value in being alliance members when they were alive, if I had to guess the wc3 human elf units are probably kirin tor affiliated, not quelâthalas)
If they are introducing high elves as playable races I would rather they didnât try to reinvent the races lore but stuck with the lore that was already there. The only meaningfully influential high elf group atm is the silver covenant of Dalaran
The Sinâdorei, or Blood Elves, are essentially High Elves. Although they changed their name from Quelâdorei to Sinâdorei to honor those who fell to the Scourge, this doesnât mean their status as Quelâdorei, which translates to Highborne is gone.
The name Quelâdorei was originally given to elves who considered themselves superior to the common elvesâthose living in the more rural areas and had no access to education. (Villagers) Given how the Sinâdorei are snobby, their deep connection to magic, and their majestic city, itâs beyond me why thereâs still debate over their identity.
The Blood elves are Highelves.
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Their are options that they could use. 1 clear place could be the Crystalsong Forest, since we know the High Elves and Blood Elves are doing battle over the ancient Highborne ruins of Shandaral.
A story could be woven of the Blood Elves losing said battle and the High Elves simply take it over.
All of this is to say thoughâŚunless a Horde Night Elf based race is coming, then this wonât happen.
Iâd say that the direct above is actually far more determining on playable High Elves than anything else.
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We, Sinâdorei, are the high elves.
Other âelvesâ who call themselve high elves or the Smurfs are just a bunch of traitors and human mage/paladin slaves wives.
With their b. Babies
Those babies are not HE
https://youtube.com/shorts/glMfed5RQSE?si=Qt9lWMA8waTQsY35
Imagine be a quel dorei and serve the alliance with humans who mocked us about ears saying âpig earsâ etc and wanted to kill us because we were helped 5 minutes by nagas
Sounds crazy
WE ARE QUEL DOREI AND WE LL NEVER BE HUMANS SLAVES AND Wh⌠WIVES
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 
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I am willing to bet my goodâŚish reputation on the fact that Blizzard will go all out with Elves in Midnight.
High Elves? You got it.
Elf customization galore? Yep yep yep.
Elf-centric storylines? You bet.
Elves on the box cover? Definitely.
All the iconic elves in the promotional material? 100%.
Night Elves, Blood Elves, Void Elves, High Elves, Low Elves, Naga Elves, LEGO Elves? Itâll be one giant parade of them all.
Elven zones? All of them.
Elven music? Start to finish.
Elven villains? Xalâatath round 2 Elven bogaloo!
Elven mounts and transmogs on the store and Trading Post? Guaranteed.
Elves are popular. Elves make money. Blizzard can put 2 and 2 together.
Itâll come. Itâs as certain as the return of Sylvanas.
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This is true, but there were a group of dissidents who didnât go along with this name change (mad at kaelâthas bit I mentioned earlier) and those are the people we talk about when we use the word quelâdorei / high elf
these are your silver covenants, your lodge elves (the ones in hinterlands to name an example who are not horde friendly)
Please keep in mind that these are what people mean when they say âhigh elvesâ as saying blood elves are high elves, which is factually correct, also makes the discussion a lot more confusing then it has to be
If they pick this option I hope it wonât be a âand suddenly there was a city thereâ, but the problem still remains that the only real influential group of high elves left on a global stage are the silver covenant which are already loyal to the kirin tor, who would even pick up the mantle?
If they do go the route of high elves going their own way which is unlikely based on the current lore I hope the buildup is a story line to follow and not something that just happens behind the screen between expansions, like the friendship between A and H in dragonflight
I wouldnât mind them getting some spotlight but I donât want them to reinvent the whole lore for it, if you want kingdom affiliated elves, thereâs blood elves, making high elves blood elves but blue is not how it should be done if they do it, imo, they should play into their self exile from Quelâthalas and the cultures that took them in
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high elfs horde exclusive <3
I ll be the first who organize a full blood elves raid to attack this new city in crystalsongs.
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Well a city is thereâŚjust needs a bit of pruning with arcane magic and can easily be an Alliance capital.
Considering they still battle over Shandaral, Iâd say the Covenant are still grounded in their roots of âNeutral, but still oppose Blood Elves.â
Well thatâs how I view playable High Elves. Unless they are completely devoid from QuelâThalas, the Blood Elves, Sunwell and everything like that - they canât be playable. Every race, whether you like them or loathe them, has relative forms of their own independence.
High Elves must qualify for their own independence and their MUST be a Horde Night Elf race coming, otherwise - High Elves canât be playable.
The city at the moment is ruins, so on that note I can really just only refer back to my earlier comment of I hope that if they do it itâll be a storyline to follow and not something that happens offscreen between expansions, DF has only increased my belief that such a way of changing things in the lore is extremely cheap and unstatisfying.
And I agree that the silver covenant are neutral, but they are still a part of dalaran, to the extend that they have influence on who is allowed in (and even helped Jaina during the purge), so for them to pick up the mantle, they would first have to break away from Dalaran, or else this new high elf kingdom would simply be an extension of Dalaran.
As for the high elves, they are mostly devoid of Quelâthalas, they actively chose to stay away from it for reasons other then joining the horde. Sure, they are allowed to visit the sunwell (which they should still be connected too, no lore stating otherwise) as a pilgrimage but its not like theyâd be able to walk the streets of the horde city of silvermoon without wary eyes, not even because theyâre alliance, but because they chose to abandon Quelâthalas in its greatest time of need post scourge invasion