Do people like pvp talents?

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I really don’t understand some PVP talents, Do people like them ? I think that they suck! Having a spell which you constantly use in PVP be taken away the moment you do PVE feels so awkward to play. Passive talents are also kind of sh!t, but not nearly as bad as the active spells you can get…

Frost Bomb for example, a mage spell that was taken away in MOP (i think) and put back as a PVP talent now. It’s a low cooldown spell which is constantly used in BG’s then all of a sudden i have no access to it because i join a dungeon ?

Then there is Frozen Orb, in PVP you can make it a target AOE, instead of the regular one which is just cast a couple of yards ahead of you, It’s Basically a 10x better version of it, but i CANT use it in PVE ??? Why ??? This one is just so beyond me.

Ring of Fire is another one. It’s a fun spell that does % health damage in a ring, why can’t they just make it do normal damage in PVE and have it as a regular spell.

There is also a new spell called Snowdrift, it’s basically DK’s remorseless winter.
Why can’t i just use it in PVE, is it overpowered ? I mean it might be a little bit, but not compared to the amount of bullsh!t other classes can do…It’s not like a mage wants to dive mele for mediocre damage and stun.

It sucks so much and i don’t really get it, spells which are constantly used are taken away for no real reason. With the talent rework they could’ve added them as regular spells no problem. I just don’t understand it…

I see people say on other forums that it’s because of balance, but i think that’s invalid with how the game plays nowadays… Am in in the minority with PVP talents. I don’t really see a lot of discussion about it ? Is it a non-issue ? I hope i can get some perspective.

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I think the original idea was that it was meant to make balancing PvE and PvP easier, but I don’t think it’s done that so well, and has become a bit redundant for the reasons you stated.

Also off topic on frozen orb. Can it just hit really hard and be placed by default? It just seems like something they tried to make a thing by shoehorning the fingers of frost into it.

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Don’t like them either. Would love to get spells like dismantle back to pve.

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I would prefer to have them available in all content but I rather have them like this than not at all.

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i feel incomplete when im doing pve stuff…

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Would be better if it was an aimable DOT in PvP.

What I mean by that is you release it in the direction of someone and if it hits someone it attaches and does AOE DOT to anyone in the radius as the player moves around for the duration.

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I know :frowning: Such a bummer they put several basic rotation abilities for several specs as pvp talents.
Should have just put ability modifiers or long cd’s as pvp talents.

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Yeah, that’d be good too. Still think it should do more damage though, like make concentrated coolness stronger. Like, the spell isn’t particularly fun to press, it’s like they added the FoF proc just to make it worth using? It’s such a wasted opportunity for a spell. That functionality may as well be a button you press to get FoF, like the old frozen touch talent.

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I despise PvP talents since a lot of them were cool/fun regular spells and talents and they’re now being used to blackmail people into war mode. I don’t give in to the blackmail but I’m sure there’s people who do.

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I always choose passive skills soI dont have to think about them. Cant even name the pvp skillsi i got…means nothing to me

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Me too, i try to avoid actives, but some are just fun to play with. Like Frost Bomb… :frowning:

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I don’t.

I don’t PvP, so seeing those talents, I feel like I’m missing out.
But I’m not going to PvP no matter what. So… yeah…
It’s just a negative experience for me.

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Haha, i didn’t really give it much thought that some people don’t do any PVP at all. That just sucks even more :smiley: Hunter doesn’t have that many fun PVP talents though…

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I really miss the thorn spell. In Classic it whas a 10 Minute Buff, in Warmode it is a useless 1 Minute Buff. I mean even buffing all 5 Minutes is annoying which is the reason greater Blessings where later given to palas in Classic but now it should be not even that?

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They do have 2 I like; the summon hawk and the summon basilisk talents. I play BM and I love me some more beasties! :sweat:

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Yeah probably this. But this was when you had the same amount of PvP and PvE talents in Legion. Now they are just something extra, though the three talents are all quite strong.

Like Frizzle said, I do not want them removed, but fine with them being baseline. Not sure what affect they would have on PvE, since they are mostly CC talents or burst talents.

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