I have noticed, that especially since s2 began, the amount of CC makes it boring to play healer. The problem is not about winning or losing, but since all classes focus the healer with cc, you are left to being a spectator in most games.
I have all healer classes, and the problem occurs whatever character I play.
I can see in some games i am cc´ed in more than 60% of the game. It´s simply just not fun with that amount of cc.
There are so many cc that don’t share the same DR, so it´s basically easy to lock down a healer almost the entire game. The result will be that even less people wants to play healer, which will affect all PvP games, that already suffers from to few healers.
Basically all classes have some way to silence, which makes me unable to heal.
then there are traps, sheep, fear, all of the rogue cc, hex, sleep etc. Since a lot of those abilities dont share the same DR, it´s easy to shutdown at least as long as it takes to kill one of the teammates.
How do other healers deal with constantly being focused by all players ?
same every season
then dont stand in the open and take all the CC
pillar = win
it’s a beginner healer mistake to put urself in a position where ur easy to CC
stand away from the fight, peek from pillar, heal, make it as annoying as possible for somebody to commit to CC u
nearly every CC is avoidable in one way or another
good position = win
bad position = eat cc and lose
go watch some good healer streamers u will quickly learn why they are high rated
they track incoming CC, people’s positions and their own positions
First of all, not all arenas have pillars.
Second, for most healing spells, I need some kind of LoS which means, the enemy will also have Los to me.
Second, things like traps are not always visible.
Third, when a rogue cast smoke, I cant heal unless I get closer.
Forth, the opponent moves to, so if I spend all the time fleeing behind a pillar, I cant heal.
Not all healing spells are instant. If I hide behind a pillar, I cant cast those spells. The second I move to get LoS i am cc´ed.
Classes like rogue and feral and hunters and mages have stealth. I cant hide from them behind a pillar.
I have watched a lot of games. It still dont tell me how to counter a freezing trap or a rogue in stealth. There is a lot of these these days.
If i hide behind a pillar, i cant heal as it requires loS, which also exposes me to the enemy, and being cc´ed.
But please explain, how it´s possible to hide behind a pillar and cast a healing spell, while a rogue or druid in stealth is stunning me ? or a mage is using it´s blink spell to get close to me and use sheep ?
every single arena has pillars
most of ur healing is instant
hug corner
heal
back behind ur corner
repeat
yes its a 3 min cd, dont cherrypick niche situations vs an overall way of playing
no u dont
u wanted advice
yes so cast them when the enemy that might CC u is CC-ed themselves or have to run or they die
u can LoS anything in this game if ur paying attention to whats going on around u
u arent casting anything ur a holy paladin everything u have is instant outside of tyrs / divinity which are casted as the gates open anyway
Every single new healer player gets an instant +500 rating the moment they learn how to position
If a rogue and feral are on top of u, blidn or stun them behind the pillar, use ur steed with freedom and get away to the next pillar
that’s how u change position
80% of healer gameplay is position + trading CDs
the remaining 20% is awareness of seeing whats going on during the game and understanding how the other specs in the match work
Ranged CC in particular is the easiest to avoid via pillar
I dont know why it shows me as holy paladin.
I am playing as Holy priest. Holy word serenity is instant with a 45 cd and renew is instant. Most of the big healing spells takes time to cast.
But, as I wrote in my original post, it´s really not about winning or losing. I simply just not fun to play as healer, when you are cc´ed most of the time. When I play as dps, I am not focused with cc to the same degree as when I play healer, and I can actually play the game instead of being a spectator.
Pvp healing is so f***in pointless, ive cancelled already. I dont want to play it until some change will come.
Dampening is killing the fun in it, and I just put wow on the shelf til healing will be better.
But as i see, the weekly changes just increase damp on blitz too.
Why didnt they put 80% damp instatnly?
Everyone hates the healers, why are in the game?
No, they need to fix it.
Picture this scenario:
Hunter speeds to the other end of the arena on low hp, I have to go out in the open and chase him.
Holy paladin casts repentance on me, I sw:d it.
I manage to fade the coil, hell yeah.
Oh, I still get CCed, hunter just used intimidate on me.
Oh, now I’m feared and the hunter is dying.
Trinket.
Repentance is being cast again.
I meld and try to get into range of the hunter before he dies.
I get silence shot on me.
I get DR’d hammer of justice on me.
I get a DR’d trap on me.
Hunter dies.
Why should I be punished in this scenario because the hunter forced me out into the open? If this is to stay at is, they need to consider merging more CC into the same DR or just make it all DR because it’s just ridiculous how long you’re locked out of playing just because someone forced you to go out into the open.
My personal favorite is when DPS decides to fight on top of me vs DKs, warriors or rogues. It becomes impossible to play the game. Same with hunters, mages & warlocks retreating back to being on top of me when a rogue is hammering them so they can easily cc me and go back to murdering them.
No. The only healer that’s even tolerable, and say that loosely is disc. The micro CC is over the top, and half of it doesn’t immediately break when you take damage either. Which makes it even worse.
my issue with playing healer is that the way classes do damage is inconsistently high for no reason with close to no set up and its just really degenerate how much damage classes like warrior, ret, monk, sub rogue for example can do in 2-4 seconds
you can barely heal through it with no CC and then an easy CC class comes along and it just becomes impossible or near impossible to do anything. this added with the fact that DPS don’t seem to understand the danger they’re in half the time makes me log off my healer a lot this season. watching people think double earthen will stop a warrior and ww monk using their swifty macro by itself is just depressing.
did u read anything or are u just here to complain
ive played holy priest for years its the hardest spec to get CCed on in the entire game
- shuffle starts
- fighting starts
- press spirit of redemption nobody can CC u or touch u
- fade
- stun anybody getting close to u or fear
- fly up in the air if melees are such a problem
- shadow word death sheeps hexes fears whatever
literally infinite tools to avoid CC as hpriest
if u dont want to play that is also fine
i guess this is just another post where somebody cries instead of looking to get better
or u can keep playing and stand in the middle of the map take all CC xdddd
because u are permanently playing on low MMR hence u get to heal complete donut DPS and have a bad experience
all ur posts are:
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- X thing is broken
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- Storytime: Bad dps in my team plays like 1500 rated (because he probably is)
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- Impossible to win arguement
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- Refuse to show any clip of any game to any kind of proof
if u want to heal good players then get good rating
prove u dont belong in Mordor especially when ur spec is strong
Playing healer is playing god mode.
the TS`s teammates are just noobs.
Perfect example of the damage that SS has done to Arena. It’s not meta to learn the game on basic levels anymore. You can just spam q shuffle, tunnel 500 games until eventually you reach 2k (participation mmr) and then you’re free to come here thinking ur opinion matters.
I will pay you money to see these 1900 CC kings. Just stream on twitch I will donate.
i made a new alt, played a few games with it starter mmr was 1.8 he´s at 2k mmr now in shuffle, and these guys aint doing anything, sometimes they focus target stun you, but thats it, its most likely just a Zugzug dmg race, even these mages dont sheep properly
so this crazy whazz cc setup aint happening on this mmr, unless u stay in the middle completely openfield and tank every aoe cc
people what are 1.8 in solo shuffle have - stats in 3v3 at 1.4 rating, and everyone knows at this mmr u wont see long cc chains
No way, according to forum source you get perfectly chain ccd on dr with no gaps every game even at 1900.
I feel like my pov of the game is just so much different from what I read here. Maybe I am cooked after all. But looking at standard 3v3 healers seems extremely overpowered to me. Every global is a Lay on Hands, the amount of defensives paired up with meta dps specs seems endless. You legit cannot win on a cc since it is extremely short and often breaks (unless Rogue Mage) and one global = full hp. Meta healers also don’t really oom unless 50% damp. I guess shuffle is that much different from the normal game.
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