Does it hurts when people still prefere a 15 year old game?

I like the Mery sue 2.0 meme because, its So Inaccurate it makes the Joke funny. Was Strong enough to Fight arthas 1 on 1 if he didnt have aid 7 years ago, bu couldnt be possibly strong enough to take a LK whos been walking 5 minutes.

Her Intentions were clear, to arrive BEFORE bolvar could get stronger and Fight him Before he had half of what arthas had behind him. Bolvar wasnt in a State ready for a Fight which is why she did.

we Dont need a Copycat of a WoTLK Expansion.

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She never was and when she did, she got her tight a** handed to her so badly, she had to make a last second escape, in the Halls of Reflection.

Bolavar is a stronger Lich King than Arthas. 3 facts that support that.
Frostmourne was never the sorce of Arthas’ power, the crown was.
Bolvar is a stronger figher than Arthas.
Bolvar does not have an inner struggle with Nerh’zul, because the Legion was defeated.
Sylvanas should have 0 chance 1v1 against Bolvar, yet she soloed the ICC guards and the LK together.
Then again she shouldn’t have had any chance against the Alliance in BFA, because 4/5 most powerful heroes at the moment are Alliance, but plot armor, I guess.

ummm… no.

Bolvar wasnt stronger then Arthas… Frostmourne still Lends alot of Power to its Wielder. as Frostmourne allowed the Wielder to use Souls to Empower himself… which bolvar had no access to.

Arthas Was 100x more Prepared due to being in reign much longer before we went against him also, he had already brought back several things such as Sindragosca and thousands More Dead… and populated Masses of Areas.

Also

Arthas was a Willing Lich King Bolvar Resisted the Will of the Lich King, meaning his Melding was Far less Complete so even then Arthas had More power from the Helmet then Bolvar did.

And im sure orginally he may have been but after sat on a throne for 7 years, bolvar likely became Rusty :P… i dunno about u but if i sit in a chair for 10 hours without movement my legs feel Achey moving again :smiley:

Yes he is. Both Varian and Bolvar are stronger figher than Arthas. Using Varian to scale them both: Arthas was always bested by Varian in his prime, while Bolvar was keeping up with him during training, even before the soul split, where arguably Varian was more powerful than during his gladiator days.

Except you can clearly see that the crown holds souls. Fromstourne was never the power behind the Lich King. Bolvar even helped reforge the blade and gave it away.

Was he? The events of Wrath of the Lich King took place 6 years after the Frozen Throne. In comparison the fight between Sylvanas and Bolvar took place 10 years after Bolvar became the Lich King.

Uh, no. Arthas had an inner struggle with Ner’zhul throughout his reign, while Bolvar worked with him and eventually Ner’zhul backed out after his task was complete at the end of Legion. Bolvar has 100% of the Lich King’s powers, while Arthas never did.

er no… It says in Lore factually, that Actually Arthas Tore at Nez’hal out… he removed the inner struggle… it costed him his entire humanity however to do so… he was NOT at a inner struggle when we fought him LOL. the dude tore his own heart out Lmfao… Like, did u ignore everything that happened afterwards

Im talking about the time when he moved OFF the throen… which bolvar had not… Arthas had for quite some time

i thnink its quite obvious Slyvanus Couldnt actually kill bolvar, her attacks did nothing to him. the difference was Strategy which he lacked. She pinned him down and removed the helmet.

Dont act like She actually Destroyed the guy… because She didnt. he was Unknown to her powers… and she was fully aware of his. and no Frostmourne DID suck souls… at the cost of your own… it was Orginally Frostmourne that turned arthus.

the Helmet is the Helmet of Dominantion… and Controls the Scourge Armies. it was the Frostmourne which Sucked the Souls and Empowered him to then use the Souls through the Helmet.

Bolvar took the Helmet to hold back the Scourage Armies… i dont get where u got the idea the Helmet stole the souls… How would a Helmet Steal Souls… its 100% more logical for the blade to be… Espically as it claims ur own Soul first.

the frostmournes effects are actually very clearly stated during the creation of Shadowmourne… and States that it too sucks the Souls out the Enemies as Arthas Taunts you about it continously…

i think u dont rly know how the LK Really worked… the Helmet wasnt the part sucking Souls out, the blade Was. the Helmet was used to control the Souls the blade had Sucked out. but Bolvar not only had no time to Take any souls for himself as he hadnt actually done anything but order his DKs to get stronger. but he didnt have the Part which goes with the helmet…

And Still in Physical fight… He would have 100% Won… she couldnt even stop the guy going… and was accurately portrayed to how much stronger he was… Her physical Damage was 0… Her strategy won the fight.

P.S its not a case of is bolvar stronger then Slyvanus.

its a Question of is the JAILER weaker then bolvar, whos actually empowering her.

Frostmourne was defended by the [Guardian]and several [revenants]. They tried to warn Arthas of the danger, but he ignored the warning and destroyed them. When they found the sword, Muradin read the inscription on the dais: “Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit.”

this from the Lore on Frostmoure Shows Frostmourne DID more then just a Weapon… it was a Major boost in the capabilities of the Wielder, the helmet of Domination… does exactly what it is Clearly stated by name.

It DOMINATED the minds and gave the Lich king the power to wield it… it was Orginally Frostmourne which brought Arthas to the helmet, and Arthas Was Reported to be Acting strangely After some time of using the blade, also stated he grew ALOT stronger.

the reason why he gave it to the DK Was Exactly as he stated, he had no Desire to lift off the throne unless the Champion DK Was to fall… so he handed all that power to the DK and Acted as a Commander, as He didnt want the Power, his only objective was to ensure the Scourage Army didnt attack azeroth.

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Dumbest thing I’ve read today.

Use your head and answere why would a company try to undermine their own product?
What would they gain from this?

You’re definitely made for retail.
Because in Classic, the “good part” starts at level 1. If you haven’t understood that, you have the retail rush to max level mentality and classic isn’t for you.

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Well, I’m not personally interested, but ppl playing retail probably are. Still more than whatever you could say about Classic right now

Yeah, Blizzard really aren’t handling the macro very well with Classic, well, neither the micro.

Yep we are doing si bad in BFA, 3 more people recruited for our raid team and we have received 2 more apply.

No one is playing BFA kekw

It’s a known game, what could they possibly hype us for besides phase release schedule?

I just don’t enjoy leveling. There’s evidence to suggest that a lot of the hardcore players don’t either since they rush through it. You don’t have to be part of retail to rush.

I can see how one could build some nice conspiracies around that, much like one could with everything.

But maybe you should treat it for what it is and stop mistaking it for a major expansion.

Every evening I see a list of full servers. My server is still layered.
What exactly is your statement based on? Other than the fact that nothing lasts forever and every game is dying.

Which kind of defeats the point of playing an RPG in the first place, at least for me. That’s what classic is. An oldschool MMORPG. What you have in retail is an action RPG where you can mow down groups of mobs or chain pulls with no downtime and “get to the good part” faster. The classic vs retail debate is moronic. It is not about one being “better” or “harder” than the other. They’re completely different game genres. Even if a ton of people try so hard to play classic like retail and just aoe/ cleave through dungeons grinds.

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Pretty much what I said. You’re not made for Classic.
And all those who rushed are now whining for content.
Wrong game for them too.

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Yes! Now I just hope for a green BoE Tinfoil hat to drop real soon.

You’re wrong though. But I guess this is pointless ,because you’re adding “they’re whining for more content” to support your argument.

Who exactly? Not all of them that’s for certain.

I was simply hoping an “oh, by the way, XY is going to happen”, to simply answer two frequent questions, Classic+ and BC. I’m interested in the latter. Took 20 months from the Classic announcement to actual release, so it wouldn’t be too early, either.

It is possible they don’t know yet, although frankly, BC is a no brainer (decision-wise), as is WLK.

Personally I’m much more fond of a “possibly”, “maybe”, or even “unlikely” compared to silence.

(1) I too would love to know, but it’s still way too early for that. Classic’s life cycle will prolly end in early 2021, so we’ll hear more at Blizzcon 2020 most likely
(2) Classic took that long because there were all sorts of logistical issues to overcome that, for TBC, are already overcome. The assets for TBC already exists in a Legion client, the only missing things are the original tuning, talents, etc. Just a fraction of what had to be done for Classic. And the devs themselves hinted so. TBC would take nowhere as long as Classic to develop, and they might even be developing it right now for all we know.

As for Classic+… it’s a pipe dream and most ppl know it.

They probably just didn’t want to steal Shadowlands’ “thunder”, so to speak. In fact, they prolly would prefer to try and win some players from Classic to Retail.

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“last 2 weeks Blizzard is doing everything they can to undermine our favourite version of wow”

You’ve made a claim, where is your evidence that it is Blizzard doing it? You haven’t even linked to activity specific to your claim.

“from suspicious posts about classic dying”, where have Blizzard posted this? It is usually trolls that post this sort of thing without seeing any stats from Blizzard on activity.

My server is pretty busy, the AH is active and the guilds are raiding and I see regular shouts for classes and normal dungeon runs.

If it were Blizzard, and it makes zero sense to be them, it is a peculiar thing to do as the subs reactivated to get on to classic are giving them money for something that they don’t need to spend a great deal of time on.

Classic has already been made, they don’t need to show it off. Why would they show off a 15 year old game at BlizzCon when it’s all about new releases or upcoming expansions etc.