Hey there, my friend loves Survi spec, but since BFA when he was constantly kicked out of the group for being Survival instead of BM, he cannot switch back to it for the sake of M+, we’re not aiming high, Mythic +15 is the maximum we’re doing.
Does any of you out there Survival hunters struggled with +15 keys? (Pugging only) We’re wondering if he could switch back to it with “clean” conscience.
Thx!
Before I got ksm? Yes.
After? Nope.
By struggle you mean doing good in M+ 15 or getting accepted in a group?
If you mean performance wise, SV does really good in myth run as our AOE is very good and we have a lot of tools to assist tank. I personally can speak for myself and say that even when I end up in bad groups, I’m always the last standing.
If you mean getting accepted in groups, unfortunately as SV you will struggle time to time, not always. You get basically people who don’t care, they just wanna check your RIO, people who are surprised and love the fact they finally get to see SV in action, and the toxicos “Oh no who plays SV anyways LOL” “Kick him his dps won’t be good” … I personally love those cause I most of the time outdps other melee most of the time (I go up to 6k dps)
6k DPS is pretty low. On good weeks I finish keys close to 10k DPS when you can pull big, and boss burst on fortified weeks when boss dies before BL ends, finish as high as 12k boss DPS.
Survival is just as good clearing packs it suffers in boss damage department.
Depends with what you compare it. So far MM, mage, druids that remains on top of me and there is a reason to that. Most of the time as I’ve mentioned I’m above most melee classes. But saying it like this is a bit vague or incomplete, there are just lot of factors to take into account if we wanna see someone’s potential, reason why I wrote it as a little detail to the topic
The problem is also that Hunters are most often invited to fill a ranged spot. If the group already has 1-2 melees and they want a ranged dps, then survival is just not gonna cut it.
Anything SV can do, any other melee can do better, they can do everything better than you. Don’t no one say they can’t, because they can.
Based on what? in raids I’m scoring higher than most melee and same goes for M+. In dual I win most melee and in BG I have enough tools to stay alive, survive against many and run away if I need to escape (Just talking about the melee sphere as you claimed)
True! reason why when I apply I always make sure to write “Melee”
Not really. Most groups will go for mage and boomie instead of MM or BM. So far for melee only DH and Pala will outdps us, but besides Pala, it is rare to see DH dps. We outdps rogues, Warriors, DK while our tools are just perfect for agressive Tankers who aren’t afraid pulling a lot (Misirection, Tar trap, Binding shot … and our AOE is the best … all that making us a very good melee choice to pick. (Not saying others don’t have anything, but just to show you that we compete and we do great)
Simply wrong.
Yes sv single target is bad, but our aoe is easily as good if not better than other melee
Current survival is passable in mythic + but mostly on fortified weeks then mobs need cooldowns usage and AOE, if you bring SV into tyrannical fights like first PF boss or hakkar you will suffer.
Problem is even when talented survival ST is just meh in damage and rotation is as bland as it gets, it has no problems in AOE, and has superb AOE damage when talented for it.
But it’s ST is just bad. And boring as well
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