Don't merge realms of different languages!

I agree that your situation is a lot more severe. My example was through the initiative of a polish communities, not Blizz. This is a massive handover.

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All i can offer is to go there and see how trade and general works from what i recall its mainly english.

When you go to pick realms its under the english tab and has been for 6 years .

I know you are worried and rightly so but take a look see how you feel and if bad gather support from friends and guildies but players from Portugal have a good standard of english .
I wish you well .

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I know, but it does say (Portuguese) in parenthesis at the end of the name. :stuck_out_tongue:

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@Grobluk: More in terms of sufficient activity ones… Even a massive population may very inactive… See for example current situation of Outland or a few other realms.

I do not, as the original program 1 already produced a TEN-way connection.

Based on what I can see, you will get connected, possibly even more than once. Naturally, not being a Blizzard employee, this is not a fact, just my honest opinion on your realm status.

You are quite welcome. :slight_smile: bows

@Ishayoe: 10 000 characters, not players. Aggra / Grim Batol has an estimated 2 800 to 3 100 players, Frostmane about 825 to 950. For comparison, Draenor has over 84 000 active characters (and as far as I recall a passive population in excess of 600 000) and therefore likely around 24 000+ players (not all at the same time, but within two weeks).

Actually, no, a connection of smallish and tiny activity. Passive population, as I noted above, is to a degree irrelevant in the short term.

As I said, in my view Aggra / Grim Batol is no longer viable by itself, Frostmane even less so. This purely my view, but in my opinion, a viable realm has at least 8 000 active players over a period of two weeks and divided so that the smaller faction can achieve at least 800 actives at prime time peak. Data (without running a census scan) on Frostmane horde suggests they can field about SIXTY (60).

I will repeat myself, both Aggra / Grim Batol and Frostmane have to get connected to something… and very, very likely more than once. You may disagree with the specific union, but there is only a limited number of options even though there are others. As to why Blizzard selected that specific grouping first, I do not know.

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x’D

That’s WAY off.

EDIT: I’ll respond to the rest later. Playing D&D. :slight_smile:

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@Ishayoe: No hurry, enjoy your D&D session with your friends. :slight_smile:

As for the numbers, it is my estimate for a two week period based on the limited available data. If you have CensusPlus scan results or something else useful in estimating numbers, I will happily look at them. :slight_smile: However, extrapolating from WRP data suggest a max of about 50 to 70 horde and 765 to 790 alliance for prime time peak, much less during quiet times…

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This is very probable but the thing is that Aggra is the official Portuguese realm and has been since its creation. The official language of Aggra is Portuguese as is its support. It’s the equivalent of connecting an English & a French realm or a Spanish & a German realm.

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The specific language servers should not be mixed. EVER!

There’s a reason these bubbles were created, if those aren’t sustainable: tough luck.

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Spent 30mins there and trade and general chats quiet .The only speaking was in English and for guilds only 1 advert for boost .
I looked at guild finder aswell most are english speaking and it feels just like any other server with scandivian guilds aswell there i really can not see a problem espcially this late in wow life .
I know its not a true reflection as only 30mins at peak time but give it a look yourself before smashing the idea .

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But then they wouldn’t have connected it with Grim Batol all those years back, it would be an extremely tiny realm if it weren’t connected. if I remember the correctly the only reason that realm was made was because blizzard made the Brazilian client for US servers and wanted to bring it to EU, and created the realm for people to play in the client and get support on the language, but there are many other servers on the realm list as well that are officially English yet are the unofficial server for whatever language.

They didn’t even do the same for US servers however, US-Zul’jin has kinda become the unofficial Quebecois server, but there is no official French client support in US, and it probably wouldn’t be sustainable as a server if it were only for French speakers.

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Little OT, but what amazes me is how when people link items from a different Client it isn’t displayed in the language of the player’s client… i.e. - I’m on an English Client yet someone linking an item from the French Client shows up as French to me…

Like… come on Blizzard.

But wcr data is not very reliable lately, you said so yourself.

According to raider io and wow progress I just don’t see how grim batol would have so many more people than frostmane, it doesn’t look realistic, unfortunately I’m short on slots and don’t play there myself.

That being said though, wow progress numbers (which aren’t updated ofc) state grim batol as being 1,5 the size of frostmane, but when I go look into the guilds, it looks like it’s actually 2,5x the amount frostmane has, if that is true your numbers make a lot more sense, guild section is obviously updated.

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Yeah no there is no excuse to merge servers of different languages , this should be undone if already done or cancelled if planned in the future. Servers with different languages are a no-no.

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OP you are right but there is no point for you to keep posting here. The forum is a place for hardcore fanboys who will stop at nothing and literally spend all of their worthless time to argue with you simply because they want to defend their favourite game.
I recommend you already start rerolling or just get a transfer. Blizzard wins either way and they will always win. Blizzard is famous for enforcing their own will and ignoring your wishes. Don’t you have a phone? So stop posting and get back to playing.

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You are so far off the mark as always with your pointless trash filled posts nobody is attacking the OP at all get a grip with your childish posts .
People are advising him and him being the level headed poster he is will do as he wants .
Nobody in this thread is defending blizzard so ive no idea what the hell you are on about take your toxic views elsewhere they are not wanted and stick to the topic .
Btw the OP runs a very good guild and full of tight nit players i suggest you check your background before advising such rot.

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@Esploratore: The overall results are very limited, but that is why I specifically said CensusPlus scan results. If those differ a lot from what I expolarated from the WRP stats, I can try to recalculate based on old information patterns. I also wanted to inform Grobluk about the fact that I try to use multiple different sources, when possible.

@Thimli: Multilingual realms can and do exist even without connections and to other players, it is not very relevant, which support language a specific player uses. As an example, my Spanish is nothing great, but by using an English client, I can still play on Spanish realms. Also, you may have heard of places such as “Itakkar”, “Finnreaver” and “Swescale”. To have a significant non-English player base no connection is needed.

@Daestra: Indeed, Ishayoe has been around for a good while and will do as he sees best for himself.

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Please DO merge all realms and force the universal language to be English. This is the future of everything in this world. FU nationalists, racists and all these categories of hate.

As a former Grim batol resident i tell u, all your worry is justified :laughing:
They spam their spannish everywhere and dosnt even know a single word english.
have fun

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Ofc you are not trolling much are you …

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There is quite the difference between having a bigger presence of certain nationalities on a server and a server that is designated as a specific language server.

I think on this one you are glossing over it too quickly. There is a reason language specific servers were made and it wasn’t just to offer support in that language.

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