@All: According to WRP, activity on BOTH Grim Batol / Aggra and Frostmane has gone down, a lot. Which means that if that situation does not change, the chance of additional connections just went up a LOT even compared to just yesterday. And if the data did not get borked by the connection… we are not talking small numbers. GB / Aggra is down over 850 players, Frostmane more than 250 in just 3 days… :(:(
Really, really, really bad, if true. :(:( I will need to keep an eye on this… :(:(
Thanks for the update man.
Colour me absolutely horrifically shocked.
But hey, there’s only 5 people complaining on the forums (Not true, but let’s pretend for the sake of argument, right Lilith?) so everything must be fine.
Because this is a forum and people are allowed to speak their mind. For your information I have alts on Al’akir too.
If you want to write a letter to Blizzard don’t use the forums, surely there are better platforms.
Let me guess, at the same time Draenor and Silvermoon got a big boost, right?
WRP is Wow Realm Population?
According to that Draenor is less active than Silvermoon.
@Shumensko: Errr… No, in fact I am seeing figures I can not even believe… Draenor can not be DOWN over 11 000 players (and almost half of its’ active characters) since last Thursday and Silvermoon would have taken a hit of over 3 000 players in the same time. The US side has been useless for a while (it apparently has a bit over 1 000 characters total), but seems the EU side has somehow borked, too. :(:(
I am going to recheck tomorrow, after they update again. And I will try to run some census runs later today, I need more comparison data and WCR is almost entirely empty.
@Punyelf: Yes and last week they were close to even. The data simply can not be quite right. :(:(
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A months or so ago the data was all blank, I’ve not trusted it since.
Not really surprising (if it were to be so), I do think there are more people being bothered with being connected to a server with different language designation or one that dominates a server with a different language.
The numbers would probably be higher if Blizzard didn’t have such exorbitant prices for server transfers. It would most likely open the flood gates if they were free.
Which is a bad situation as well, I don’t like to see how Silvermoon and Draenor always get recommended. And I assume when people do bite the bullet that’s where they end up… creating problems of its own.
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My guess is that it’s primarily due to beta invites. BfA is done, people are more excited to play beta.
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Beta invites are few, and several of those who get the invite don’t want to play it - even at the high end - because they want the experience of first-time discovery on release and don’t want that marred by glitches and errors. That’s perfectly understandable.
The beta has two realms, sometimes 3. I’d wager there are perhaps a couple thousand people online on both of them combined at any time of day.
So that accounts for Frostmane, or the players lost twice over roughly, but the beta also contains all the other servers and continents. I see people with Chinese names in there!
So no, the beta can’t account for that. Not even close.
The best we can hope for is that the reason is bad data due to an API bug or something else of that nature.
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@Punyelf: They have had major problems on WRP, yes, but month ago I could use WCR data to crosscheck certain things. Currently, I do not have that available to me either. Because the sites, when they were both active and funcioning normally had a fairly specific ratio for certain things and I could run cross-comparisons between the two. Now I am trying to compare “not available” to “not reliable” for most realms. That does not work at all. :(:( I am “useless”, if I have no numbers to use. :(:(
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Protagonist (one of the four 12/12M guilds) left Frostmane for Ravencrest. Don’t think many guilds will stay
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Yeah, that’s the one I was preferring to.
Adept and Deus Ex also considered it, although I think they have a much more positive outlook on this situation - or at least they did just prior to the merge, not sure what their opinion is now.
And then there’s us.
EDIT: You can actaully scroll back through the tiers and see the slow-mo death of Frostmane. It’s quite wild… 
I started raiding on Frostmane in tier 18.
T18: 21 guilds on Frostmane cleared the mythic raid.
T19: 14 guilds cleared all 3 mythic raids, 19 killed at least 2/3
T20: 9 guilds killed all bosses
T21: 12 guilds kill all bosses
Uldir: 8 guilds kill all bosses
BfD: 8 guilds kill all bosses
CoS: 1 guild kill all bosses (that tier was friggin’ stupid hard, so w/e)
EP: 3 guilds kill all bosses
Nya: 4 guilds kill all bosses
Welp.
@All: Ran CP on horde side on a new character… snapshot 443 of levels 20 to 120 and prime time has not started yet, manual scan time 9 minutes 21 seconds. Split as follows Grim Batol 56, Aggra 166, Frostmane 24, rest unguilded and therefore home realm unknown. Going to create an alliance side character for census, too.
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At least they seem to have listened to this one - all the individual realms for Thursday’s Kilrogg connection are listed on breaking news on the log-in screen.
It does help to be at the end rather than the beginning. My realm group were almost the last to be connected last time after a very long gap in the middle and I think they’d sorted all the problems by then. I’m pretty certain we’ll be connected this time but probably late on again
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And I’ll wager the sum total of M guilds completing SL raid 1 will be less on the combined Frostmane plus aggra than it would have been if theoretically counted separately so what exactly does this solve? It’s meant to generate opportunities. Simply adding two groups together and going “look the number is higher than what it was on frostmane” is totally missing the point if none of those making up the new compound figure are players from the frostmane pool who weren’t raiding before, and honestly I don’t think this move is going to coax things up because of how the raiding application pool looks for them.
I’ll well aware Portuguese players may speak English and are probably nice as punch, doesnt change the fact that due to the huge numbers disparity it’s going to be a situation of one or two English speakers joining a guild of Portuguese speakers and then coyly going “ummmm can you speak English please?”. Even if they would, how many players will happily put themselves in the position of asking that? Or learning Portuguese to spare themselves the embarrassment of it so they can raid?
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@Ananda: After so many years and the loss of old forums I can not be entirely sure anymore, but Kul Tiras might have actually been second to last connection of the entire program back then. If memory serves, only the connection of Defias Brotherhood to the tiny 4-way followed.
@All: Creation of gnome mage Grimona completed, as well as alliance side CP scan, manual time 17 minutes, 19 seconds, alliance (of levels 20 to 120) detected 641, split as follows: GB 113, Aggra 69, Frostmane 240, rest unguilded.
They were… sortta in our case as well.
The issue with Breaking News is that, typically, it’s used for completely routine and mundane things, and therefore when something unusual happens it doesn’t have the desired effect.
Frostmane was listed in-game on the breaking news sidebar, but you have to read a good 18 or so lines before you spot it in amongst 4 others.
My argument is:
- They should not use Breaking News for things that are not news, for instance to talk about the regular scheduled maintenance
- It should be even more visible. For instance, when going to the realm selection screen, a connected realm should appear as one, and the in-game chat box should open with a realm message of the day (which I know they can do, they’ve done it a lot in the past) and maybe even an e-mail to everyone on the affected realms.
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I think we were. I know Takralus got really fed up of my whinging in the thread ‘what about us?’
I like the idea of a realm message of the day every day for the week or so leading up to the connection.