Doom winds and Ascendance

Hello Enhancement Shamans!
So I gave Enhancement a try and I really enjoy it.
Some button bloat but I like how they look and play.

I noticed something when playing Doom winds and Ascendance at the same time. It feels really clunky and slow!

So if Blizzard would put either Doom winds or Ascendance off the GCD, it would feel so much smoother and better.
That would not make or break the game. It just feels way to clunky.

How you guys feel about this?

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That is a criticism that has been given many times, but blizzard does not really agree.

They tried to alleviate the problem by making the abilities do something when you press them. I think that worked for ascendance but not that much for doomwinds.

But I would not be against removing doomwinds from gcd.

Something HAS to go off the gcd. Shaman is the only class that actually has to press 5 globals before starting the damage

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Ye, that is what I was feeling. It didn’t feel so good going 1v1 against someone that started to burst in like 1 GCD

Definitely agree.

Though at the moment recasting feral spirits taking up GCDs all the time feels worse, the new proc based spawn talent might have been a good fix if it was better or the active ability was replaced by it in my opinion.

Also frees up a keybind, which is nice

Very good point! I support that

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Change idea:
Give us both Ascendance and DRE, then make it so that Doom Winds procs every time you enter Ascendance (full duration) or when you spawn a Feral Spirit (Half Duration).

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I would rather have Doom Winds removed.
It doesn’t really serve any purpose anymore.

You press the button to activate 8 seconds window to try to squeeze as many main hand strikes as possible, which directly conflicts with current design of the spec where it is based on spending MSW to avoid overcapping.

In single target when you play Stormbringer it kinda makes sense (but only thanks to adding extra charge to Stormstrike via Stormblast). Since DRE is dead, you will always use Ascendance, and DW pairs with it very nicely. You just spam Windstrike in Ascendance and occasionally you use Tempest when you are on 10 stacks of MSW.

But in AOE it feels AWFULL. Due to Crash Lightning CD nerf from Chain Lightning, you simply do not have buttons to press during DW. In AOE it only works with Crash Lightning, which you will be able to use maybe 3 times, and with Sundering, which is not even taken by Stormbringer. That’s it, two abilities that activate it in AoE.

Well, in single target you only gain one more button that activates it - Stormstrike. But it somewhat works due to it’s resets and having 2 charges.

In my opition DW should be removed, or moved to bottom and become capstone, with a branch that would support it.