Dooms day is coming

[Onigari-frostmane]

@Cutîepie-outland

As i am overflying those threads they have a couple of things in common with this thread but all in all it has very different concerns than what i’m trying to bring up

Ok I’ll do you a favor and streamline it.
With the constant manipulation of metrics and rating ranges, admins of a rating system can inflate or deflate the rating pool at will.
With the use of rating ranges in matchmaking in this game in particular, and how it starts off limited to a predefined range when you first queue and then expands the search parameters the longer you stay in the queue, it means the amount of these ranges in total in the rating system and how long it takes for the search parameters to expand decides how quick the queue is.
Regardless of how many people are queuing.

For example, let’s say you have 20 different rating ranges. But due to the average wait time taking precedence, and the queue isn’t optimized for the player pool, the wait time then increases. Cut that down in half to 10 rating ranges, it means it’ll go faster.

So long queue times is because the system isn’t calibrated as it should be for the player pool size.
The only way more players helps this, is if the system is calibrated for a larger player pool size. But that doesn’t mean more players = faster queues, it means the calibration of it is what decides the speed.

The more rating ranges in the matchmaking (no, that does not mean the ranges for the titles, it means the ranges used for matchmaking which tend to be much smaller in sizes), the more average the skill level of each matchup will be. In other words, it’ll become more “fair” in terms of chance to win. But it needs more and more players, because each added rating range in the matchmaking takes longer time in the matchmaking process.

While fewer rating ranges in the matchmaking process, it means there’ll be a larger difference of skill and a more unbalanced chance to win in the matchups, but it’ll go faster in the matchmaking process which is better for fewer players.

As for designs of classes etc.

@Onigari-frostmane

Most importantly,
the classes and specs needs entirely different designs on these proposed arena servers. A constant problem for the developers, which is felt strongly by the players too, is the designs being influenced by both the PvE side of the game and the PvP side of the game all the time.
This is a problem that will never go away to a satisfactory degree. PvP will never have that proper balance and feeling of individuality and immersive progression which reinforces the emotional investment, while the PvE side will have cool designs for gameplay in PvE content, because they contradict each other.
PvP is typically about both outsmarting and overpowering your opponent, and that’s what creates the challenge. While in PvE, it’s more linear with first the aim of getting the power to do it, and then figuring out the coordinated “dance” of dealing with the mechanics. So these two design directions will never work together in perfect harmony, because it’s like trying to walk in two opposite directions at the same time but with only one body.
Which is solved by splitting the designs into two, but not with the compromise of the PvP talents which you’ve all felt is horribly inadequate in these regards. But with a true separation, and thereby proper freedom without being tied down to the other aspect which it’s not designed for, it’d be possible for major improvements for both sides of the game.

(The accessibility of hosting services also affects the matchmaking speed btw, but that kinda goes without saying. Can’t matchmake if there’s no room on a server to host it after all, so the server configuration might have its own queue at times as well.)