Tested dot damage on PTR and then went on classic with leveling gear and tested the same.
See the results for yourself.
PTR:
Classic:
Without good gear, overwhelming power, lethal strikes, high amounts of haste or vision of perfection proc, my dot damage was still faster to kill a player than on PTR/Live.
Fix this.
Edit:
Sorry the bad quality of the 2nd video.
Every class does more damage in classic but i can agree the dots are terrible for affli and it is once again a burst spec instead of a rot dot spec
Sup Jinsk. I answered today in the near topic, but I will repeat my post:
Today tests affli on BG. I understand that this is level 50, that the balance is now 0 and for sure something will be tweaked, but at the moment, affli is broken. First, PVP talent on UA broken. Secondly, mass damage is caused by everyone except you - bumkins, hunters, priests, but not warlock. Mass AOE will not work, your DOT’s simply do not cause damage. Nobody cares about him. To somehow push the enemy, you must stand and constantly cast Malefic. Got a druid with 41k HP. It can’t be killed, and it kills you easily. In short:
/spit Ion
So what’s the argument here?
as mentioned in the other post you made for this in the general forums aff isnt a fully dot reliant spec, you have to actually play the class correctly in order to do damage, it would be like complaining that a warrior cant just auto attack something to death,
if you using malefic rapture and actually play the class as its intended im sure the damage will be perfectly fine,
10 seconds difference and you aren’t casting malefic rapture, I think It’s not that bad
Yes, we got your message after your first couple of threads already.
You want damage distribution do be more heavy on the dot side rather than filler/malefic rupture, since that’s the specc fantasy and it’s hard to hard cast in pvp.
Numbers are still in the air and you’re not even max level, so it’s even more pointless to look at the numbers.
If you really want to play the same class and same specc the same way for 15 years, maybe you should go play classic and stick to it.
Other classes are begging for new additions and gameplay mechanics for their speccs and here you are complaining about an interesting ability with unique interactions and a lot of potential to be fleshed out in shadowlands with legendaries, and the covenant package.
20 seconds, vision of perfection proced, overwhelming power proced, lethal strikes proced and i have way better gear.
Its bad.
Its not about damage with malefic rapture, it’s about dot damage.
Auto attacks and dots are not the same sorry.
if you can’t understand the argument i’m not explaining it to you.
At max level dots are below 20% of your total damage.
You will get bored of spamming malefic rapture within 2 weeks.
You will do it in both aoe and single target, i don’t see how interesting this “new mechanic” is.
It’s not only about being hard to cast in pvp, it’s just boring class design.
You will press this button more than any other in any spec.
you were playing on PTR the entire spec rovolves around combining your dots with the correct use of malefic rapture, if you are refusing to use the spells that are given to you of course you will end up not doing any damage, the warlock specs are about building soul shards and spending them, when you dot things you generate shards through agony but you are not using them, so you will not do decent damage.
ill give a better idea with the warrior, it would be like spamming out your bllodthirt and raging blow and such, but never pressing rampage, the cornerstone ability of the spec the thign that uses your rage. without it you dont deal any damage
uploading a video of you playing badly and then complaining about the spec not working properly is idiotic.
affliction is no longer a pure DoT class, get over it
@Jinks… reroll bruh. /end
Rot specs won’t work in the current WoW. It is too fast paced. Maybe on ST only fights, sure. But everywhere else, rot just doesnt fit anymore.
this statement its so stupid i believe you played lock since legion and therefore you are a fotm.
It was never a pure dot class, that would mean you would cast nothing but dots.
But it was way harder to play than “malefic rapture, keep dots”. I know that a fotm lock like you, this seems op for your weekly m+, but as a class its just gonna be boring overtime… like ua spam was.
i have played lock for like 4 or 5 years now, barely flavour of the month, i was playing it at the start of legion back when it wasnt anything special, and it was widely considered to be terrible, i just enjoyed the spec myself and decided that i wanted to play it, i played in a normal/heroic guild at the time so it didnt matter that much.
that is purely objective, to me many other things are completely boring, a lot of people really enjoy playing hunter i dislike it completely, people find the mage specs interesting and fun to play and i find them boring and annoying to play. its subjective, your dont like it so move on and play something else, it doesnt mean that its terrible and no one else should like it either,
like i said, fotm.
In legion when locks were boring af but op. cool
End of story, hf spamming MR
all of the warlock specs were basically considered to be useless at the start of legion, you have no idea what you are talking about.
you also do not seem to understand what FOTM means, the M stands for month, not 5 years
Say “warlock” who play 4-5 years. Funny.
why dont i have any idea what im talking about im correct about this?
warlocks were generally considered to be terrible at the start of legion, that was my entire point, and based on high end dungeons and raids they were considered to be terrible,
what part of that makes me now know what im talking about?
Affliction had fights where it actually performed pretty well before the huge buffs.
It means you rolled something when it was strong, since warlocks in general have been strong in pve (apart from m+) i dont see why a fotm would reroll again.
Middle of the pack wasn’t terrible, the design was however.
Like this, nerf the Malefic Rapture damage (which it will happen) and the design it’s still bad.
Hence why the damage needs to be tuned more towards dots.
Saying dots as a placeholder for MR’s is a good design is borderline retarded.
because i dont pick my class based on what is strong, i pick my class based on what i have fun with and what i enjoy playing,
that being shown by me starting to play this class at a time where it was generally considered to be terrible, and the fact that i was also playing balance druid in legion, which for the first patch or two it was considered to be terrible, because it didnt do very well in ST
what part of this being subjective do you not understand? just because you do not like something it doesnt mean that everyone else has to hate it…
other people can still like it and not be retarded. you are not some kind of game development god that knows better than everyone else, so please just accept that something isnt the way you want and try to play something else you might enjoy more.
back to your original point from this topic though, you can just out right refuse to play a spec correctly, like dueling someone as affliction and only using your dots and then claim that it is designed poorly, you need to actually play a spec correctly before you can even start to complain about it doing bad damage, because the damage was bad because you were bad, not because of terrible design
We haven’t been one-tricking this specc since family and friends pre alpha so our opinion is null and void and the opinions of our pvp affliction overlords is gospel.
This is what i said.
So, i didn’t say the damage is bad, i said dot damage is too low.
I remember a similar conversation about UA spam right before legion.
Ok about this, i don’t have to accept that the spec is going in the wrong direction.
The fact that it is op its hiding a lot of problems , one of them the one i posted.
I know, it seems amazing in M+ but just because you only do that part of the game, it doesn’t mean the spec got to cater to you.
There are other ways to make the spec good in M+ that it doesn’t revolve around dots being placeholders for this other spammy ability to shine.
You wish the words of the pvpers were gospel in this case.
Darkglare wouldn’t be a thing, dots would do damage and class design in general would be improved.
Instead they listen to people who main focus is M+ and ruin the whole spec identity for one aspect of the game.