Double/Triple Drops - Gear Dropping Multiple Times in Old Content

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Basically I have been running older 5 & 10 man content, both dungeons & raids for achievements, transmog & mounts.

I am seeing a lot of double & triple drops, meaning a boss is dropping the exact same item multiple times.

Is this a bug or is it an intentional part of the change to looting?

I cant help but think that this changes or skews the odds to obtain a specific item or piece of gear. For example if I kill a boss that has 10 items in his loot table & drops 2 items upon death, I have 2/10 odds that I see the item I’m looking for… But now it can be as low as 1/10 because the same piece of gear can now drop twice.

Anyone else experiencing this, or is it just me? :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: Went & did some random 25 man raids to get some screens shots that demonstrate what I mean & how often this is happening…

#1 - Bastion of Twilight (25 man), Halfus Wyrmbreaker, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/dXvz1k1

#2 - Bastion of Twilight (25 man), Twilight Ascendant Council, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/Ho3fu3b

#3 - Terrace of Endless Spring (25 man), Protectors of the Endless, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/ETZaXP1

#4 - Firelands (25 man), Rhyolith, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/gGvOMgN

#5 - Dragon Soul, Warlord Zon’ ozz, double drop x2:
https://imgur.com/13UGLwh

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intentional to make it more time consuming adding extra value for you for free.

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I’ve seen that as well while running ToT for the mount achievement… Thought it was normal.

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I’ve seen that as well while running ToT for the mount achievement… Thought it was normal.

^^ It never use to happen… I’ve only noticed it since returning to the game after scaling changes.

I just did a run through of ICC 10 man & half the bosses, including the Lich King drop’d the same item twice.

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Yes it did…

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No, it really didn’t… Through out my time playing the game during TBC, Wrath, Cataclysm & MoP (when it was relevant content) I never once saw a dungeon or raid boss drop the exact same item twice, with the exception of tier tokens of course… Even if it did happen & I just somehow got lucky & never witnessed it before, for some reason it is happening with a hell of a lot more regularity now.

This is quite a recent change, which must have happened in either Legion or BfA.

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Selective memory is a bliss…

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add this as an edit just as you were replying…

Even if it did happen & I just somehow got lucky & never witnessed it before, for some reason it is happening with a hell of a lot more regularity now.

100% never encounter this before… Nothing to do with selective memory! :stuck_out_tongue:

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i think Kangji is right. the same loot drop problem seemed to appear much more frequently after legacy loot rules were introduced (in my experience). not that it never happened before, but not like this.

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Gear dropping twice you say?

https://i.imgur.com/iZ6Ljjz.jpg

Here my alt got 4 of the same exact piece.

Reason why it happens is because Legacy Loot is a Personal Loot that is set to roll items multiple times as if you have the full group. Each roll is independant so you can have exact same result of each one.

I think Legacy Loot needs a duplicate prevention system. It’s not difficult to implement. The system just rolls each item one by one. But from second roll it checks if the result is the same as any of the previous ones. If it is the same then just repeat the roll to get something else.

Legacy Loot is designed and aimed for people that solo old raid or maybe do them with a friend. Either way the situation when you would need duplicate items is so rare. There’s no reason not to implmenet system to prevent it.

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Yeah i remember that back in the days before personalized loot alot of times things dropped twice as well. So often 2 people in the raid were rather happy both getting the item

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it did, but getting 3 of the same item was much like a miracle back then. now it’s quite common and you can even get 5, 6 of the same item even if you are very unlucky. it just feels broken.

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Here are some screen shots that show how often this is happening. I really didn’t have to try that hard either, just spent an hour or so running some random old content…

#1 - Bastion of Twilight (25 man), Halfus Wyrmbreaker, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/dXvz1k1

#2 - Bastion of Twilight (25 man), Twilight Ascendant Council, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/Ho3fu3b

#3 - Terrace of Endless Spring (25 man), Protectors of the Endless, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/ETZaXP1

#4 - Firelands (25 man), Rhyolith, triple drop:
https://imgur.com/gGvOMgN

#5 - Dragon Soul, Warlord Zon’ ozz, double drop x2:
https://imgur.com/13UGLwh

I did full clears of each of these raids. Pretty much 50%, maybe even 60% of the bosses all drop’d the same item twice.

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The same loot dropping is designed for 25 man raids so the same loot is bound to drop often. After all there were only about 9 or 10 classes at the time.

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Two of the same item is rare, but normal. Getting three of the same item from five bosses in a row is not. This never happend b4 Legion.

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Back in the day when I raided I never really saw this happen. I focused more on 5 man heroic dungeons & 10 man raiding so generally bosses only drop 2 items & honestly can not not recall bosses dropping the exact same item twice… they would always drop 2 different items as for 25 man raids, I’m really not too sure if double drops were a thing but I seriously doubt triple drops occurred, & even if they did surely it didn’t happen this often.

I cleared 10 man Naxx & ICC earlier (didn’t take screen shots at the time) & pretty much every other boss had double drops, dropping the same item twice which is kinda crazy considering that bosses in 10 man content generally only drop 2 items to begin with. Back in Wrath of the Lich king I must have cleared the first 6-8 bosses of ICC 10 man with my guild at least 20-30 times & not once did I see bosses double dropping then. This is most certainly a more recent change.

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I see a lot of screenshots of this kind of thing on Reddit. They really should fix it so duplicates can’t drop.

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